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    4/16/2012 2:31 pm

    Still that is geared toward him being "corrected" not punishment for the crime he committed.  Sure correction is the goal but so is punishment.  Of course how much room does our system have to talk.  Charley Manson just came up for parol and he was sentenced to death.

    4/16/2012 12:46 pm


    I did hear however, that they have the ability to declare someone non-corrected though. Maybe this is bullshit, I need to look it up... I heard they can re-up someone who's incarcerated for 5 years at a time, regardless of whether he served his debt to society. Their whole prison sentence is geared to rehabilitating an individual, and if he's considered too dangerous, he won't be released.

    Yeah here it is!

    From: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/04/10/150358395/doctors-declare-norways-confessed-killer-sane-trial-to-begin-monday
    "In the end, Norway's City Court will determine whether to declare Breivik insane. He could face Norway's maximum penalty of 21 years in prison, with the possibility of unlimited extensions added later, if he is deemed a threat after serving a prison term."

    Unfortunately in the searching for this, I found this...
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1277158/Halden-Prison-Inside-Norways-posh-new-jail.html
    And this....
    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/08/02/vbs.norwegian.prisons/index.html

    So .... If you need me, I'll be heading to Norway to commit a serious crime, and live on the beach for the rest of my days...

    4/16/2012 12:31 pm

    That is sick!

    Back to Breivik, the max he can get is 3 months for each person he killed.

    4/16/2012 11:21 am

    I've gotten the impression Norway is a strange place, AP. The whole Norwegian Death Metal thing is plain bizarre. I suppose if I lived in a country where the sun doesn't rise for three months of the year, I'd get a little squirrely, too.

    From Wikipedia:

    "On 8 April 1991, Mayhem vocalist Per Yngve 'Dead' Ohlin committed suicide while alone in a house shared by the band.[25][26] While fellow musicians often described Dead as odd and introverted off-stage, his on-stage persona was very different. He went to great lengths to make himself look like a corpse and would cut his arms while singing.[7][27]

    He was found with slit wrists and a shotgun wound to the head, by Mayhem guitarist Øystein 'Euronymous' Aarseth. Dead’s suicide note apologized for firing the weapon indoors and ended: "Excuse all the blood".[26] Before calling the police, Euronymous allegedly went to a nearby shop and bought a disposable camera with which he photographed the body, after re-arranging some items.[28] One of these photographs was later used as the cover of a bootleg live album called Dawn of the Black Hearts.[29]

    In time, rumors spread that Euronymous had made a stew with bits of Dead’s brain and had made necklaces with bits of his skull.[10][25] The band later denied the former rumor, but confirmed that the latter was true.[27] Moreover, Euronymous claimed to have given these necklaces to musicians he deemed worthy.[1] Mayhem bassist Jørn 'Necrobutcher' Stubberud noted that “people became more aware of the [black metal] scene after Dead had shot himself ... I think it was Dead's suicide that really changed the scene†.[30]

    4/16/2012 7:14 am

    He killed 77 people, alot of them kids and his max sentence is 21 years?


    OSLO, Norway (AP) — With a defiant closed-fist salute, a right-wing fanatic admitted Monday to a bomb-and-shooting massacre that killed 77 people in Norway but pleaded not guilty to criminal charges, saying he was acting in self-defense.

    On the first day of his long-awaited trial, Anders Behring Breivik rejected the authority of the court as it sought to assign responsibility for the July 22 attacks that shocked Norway and jolted the image of terrorism in Europe.

    Dressed in a dark suit and sporting a thin beard, Breivik smiled as a guard removed his handcuffs in the crowded court room. The 33-year-old then flashed his salute before shaking hands with prosecutors and court officials.

    "I don't recognize Norwegian courts because you get your mandate from the Norwegian political parties who support multiculturalism," Breivik said in his first comments to the court.

    Eight people were killed in Breivik's bombing of Oslo's government district and 69 others were slain in his shooting massacre at the left-leaning Labor Party's youth camp on Utoya island outside the capital. Breivik has said the attacks were necessary to protect Norway from being taken over by Muslims.

    "I admit to the acts, but not criminal guilt," he told the court, insisting he had acted in self-defense.

    The key issue to be resolved during the 10-week trial is the state of Breivik's mental health, which will decide whether he is sent to prison or into psychiatric care. Anxious to prove he is not insane, Brevik will call right-wing extremists and radical Islamists to testify during the trial, to show that there are others who share his view of clashing civilizations.

    During Monday's opening session, he remained stone-faced and motionless as prosecutors read the indictment on the terror and murder charges, with descriptions of how each victim died, and when they explained how he prepared for the attacks.

    But he suddenly became emotional when prosecutors showed an anti-Muslim video that he had posted on YouTube before the killing spree, wiping away tears on his cheek with trembling hands.

    After a lunch break, Breivik was again expressionless as he watched prosecutors present surveillance footage of the Oslo explosion. The blast ripped through the high-rise building that housed government headquarters, blowing out windows and filling surrounding streets with smoke and debris.

    Breivik also said he doesn't recognize the authority of Judge Wenche Elisabeth Arntzen, because he said she is friends with the sister of former Norwegian Prime Minister and Labor Party leader Gro Harlem Brundtland.

    The anti-Muslim militant described himself as a writer, currently working from prison, when asked by the judge for his employment status.

    He claims he targeted the government headquarters in Oslo and the youth camp to strike against the left-leaning political forces he blames for allowing immigration in Norway.

    While Norway has a legal principle of preventive self-defense, that doesn't apply to Breivik's case, said Jarl Borgvin Doerre, a legal expert who has written a book on the concept.

    "It is obvious that it has nothing to do with preventive self-defense," Doerre told The Associated Press.

    If deemed mentally competent, Breivik would face a maximum prison sentence of 21 years or an alternate custody arrangement under which the sentence is prolonged for as long as an inmate is deemed a danger to society.

    Police sealed off the streets around the Oslo court building, where journalists, survivors and relatives of victims watched the proceedings in a 200-seat courtroom built specifically for the trial.

    Thick glass partitions were put up to separate the defendant from victims and their families, many of whom are worried that Breivik will use the trial to promote his extremist political ideology. In a manifesto he published online before the attacks, Breivik wrote that "patriotic resistance fighters" should use trials "as a platform to further our cause."

    Norway's NRK television was broadcasting parts of the trial live, but it is not allowed to show Breivik's testimony.

    After he surrendered, Breivik had told investigators he is a resistance fighter in a far-right militant group modeled after the Knights Templar — a Western Christian order that fought during the crusades. Police, however, have found no trace of any organization and say he acted alone.

    "In our opinion, such a network does not exist," Prosecutor Svein Holden told the court on Monday.

    In his manifesto, Breivik described the supposed group's initiation rites, oaths and the "clenched fist salute" that he used in court, symbolizing "strength, honor and defiance against the Marxist tyrants of Europe."

    After blowing up parts of the government building and shooting dozens to death on Utoya island, Breivik surrendered to police 1 hour and 20 minutes after he arrived on Utoya. The police response to his terror spree was slowed by a series of mishaps, including the lack of an operating police helicopter and the breakdown of an overloaded boat carrying a commando team to the island

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