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12/12/2016 10:51 am
So the Lucario file has worked partially for you? I hope it works for me. :3 A strange success is still a success, no matter how you slice it you should keep us updated
3/11/2016 2:22 pm
14 pins short of 4K... That's nuts, John with that 215 lookin pretty bad!
Seriously though, that's a ton for anyone, they just did it mixed. Course those ladies thew 760 and 805....
3 800's for a team with a 794....
3/11/2016 11:31 am
Alz,
Thought you might find this interesting. A group of friends (including 2 I had mentioned above) set the new world record for a 5 person team over 3 games. 3986
The 5 bowlers scores were:
Jay Bradshaw: 289-278-259- 826
Jana Luden: 279-237-289- 805
Jim Luden: 267-268-266- 801
Linda Bradshaw: 269-234-257- 760
John Bogacki: 215-300-279-794
1319-1317-1350- 3986
I don't care how easy the lanes are or how good the equipment is, that's a ton.
2/24/2016 4:20 pm
Oh we drank plenty. It didn't always make for the best showing on Sundays. We usually ended up at the Midnight Rodeo which was across the street from the dump we used to stay in.
2/24/2016 3:57 pm
forsberg_us wrote:
Well I'll get an opportunity this weekend to see how good I am really getting. 9 games in Springfield Missouri on tournament oil patterns designed to be hard.
The general public enjoys optimal conditions during leagues, but they try to counter the tech with oil patterns from hell when it's considered tournament level play. Should be a fun (frustrating) time!You bowling the Greater Ozark tournament?
If so, I bowled that tournament several times. The patterns aren't designed to be hard, just more fair than what you'll be used to coming from the St. Louis area. A couple of tips: Enterprise Park always favored a deep inside angle. Like really deep if necessary. One year I had over 1400 at Enterprise Park, and nearly 2100 total. I had over 750 in doubles playing about the 5th arrow. Doug Buehrer (who I mentioned in a previous post) had over 800. We were on the same pair, but unfortunately we had different doubles partners who bowled poorly. If we had been paired together, we'd have won the tournament.
We always bowled the team event early in the morning, so we got fresh oil. They usually started really slick, but broke down quickly. The key to Sunshine is always the oil transition because when it goes, it goes fast. Don't be afraid to make big moves, especially if you see other people hitting the nose.
Rich (Orf) used to destroy that place. He's won the all-events a couple of times and finished 2nd a couple of times as well.
Yeah that's where we'll be but we handicap ourselves.
We don't play early. There are hangovers to drink away. So the oil is already second run. I was happy with the Melee Jab and how it played there last season. Nowhere near where you're at with the 1400... I'll be happy to hold 200 a game. With my handicap that's a fair showing! I think I'll end up owning a 185 average coming into the place. But the brackets are a hella good time and we have our own little "Mr Springfield" thing we do too.
Mostly we go there for a long weekend of drinking, ReRico's, Lamberts, Bass-Pro, and some bowling!
2/23/2016 9:15 pm
I don't know anything about bowling , but have enjoyed reading your bowling stories. But I do have a story to share .
When I graduated from college it was mid - term and did not have a job lined up , so I decided to go to graduate school . Well I was offered an assistantship by the Dean of Phys. Ed. and could use the money . The catch was , I had to teach a freshmen girls bowling class twice a week and a canoeing class twice a week . I told the Dean I didn't know shit about either one . He was desperate and I was too . He told me to add lib . Our school had it's own bowling facilities and I quickly learned that my main job in bowling was to lock the damn doors to keep out the males who wanted in to ogle over these girls who wore the shortest shorts you've ever seen . Did I mention that everyone of them made an A ?
Freshmen girls bowling class? I think that's the plot line for more than a few porn movies.
2/23/2016 5:54 pm
Well I'll get an opportunity this weekend to see how good I am really getting. 9 games in Springfield Missouri on tournament oil patterns designed to be hard.
The general public enjoys optimal conditions during leagues, but they try to counter the tech with oil patterns from hell when it's considered tournament level play. Should be a fun (frustrating) time!
You bowling the Greater Ozark tournament?
If so, I bowled that tournament several times. The patterns aren't designed to be hard, just more fair than what you'll be used to coming from the St. Louis area. A couple of tips: Enterprise Park always favored a deep inside angle. Like really deep if necessary. One year I had over 1400 at Enterprise Park, and nearly 2100 total. I had over 750 in doubles playing about the 5th arrow. Doug Buehrer (who I mentioned in a previous post) had over 800. We were on the same pair, but unfortunately we had different doubles partners who bowled poorly. If we had been paired together, we'd have won the tournament.
We always bowled the team event early in the morning, so we got fresh oil. They usually started really slick, but broke down quickly. The key to Sunshine is always the oil transition because when it goes, it goes fast. Don't be afraid to make big moves, especially if you see other people hitting the nose.
Rich (Orf) used to destroy that place. He's won the all-events a couple of times and finished 2nd a couple of times as well.
2/23/2016 5:35 pm
I don't know anything about bowling , but have enjoyed reading your bowling stories. But I do have a story to share .
When I graduated from college it was mid - term and did not have a job lined up , so I decided to go to graduate school . Well I was offered an assistantship by the Dean of Phys. Ed. and could use the money . The catch was , I had to teach a freshmen girls bowling class twice a week and a canoeing class twice a week . I told the Dean I didn't know shit about either one . He was desperate and I was too . He told me to add lib . Our school had it's own bowling facilities and I quickly learned that my main job in bowling was to lock the damn doors to keep out the males who wanted in to ogle over these girls who wore the shortest shorts you've ever seen . Did I mention that everyone of them made an A ?
2/23/2016 4:27 pm
Well I'll get an opportunity this weekend to see how good I am really getting. 9 games in Springfield Missouri on tournament oil patterns designed to be hard.
The general public enjoys optimal conditions during leagues, but they try to counter the tech with oil patterns from hell when it's considered tournament level play. Should be a fun (frustrating) time!
2/23/2016 3:54 pm
After Allison's 900 was rejected, there was a lot of suspicion that the higher-ups in the ABC were trying to protect Allie Brandt's 886, which was the recognized high series at the time. Like Mr. Orf, Allison was a very good bowler and well-liked and respected from what I was told.
The lanes are handled differently now because this new equipment changes the lanes so much in such a short period of time, the process of checking the lanes at the end of the night wouldn't make sense. 30 years ago, over the course of a normal 3 games series, the lanes might change such that you'd move 2-4 boards over the course of the night as the lanes dried up. This new equipment creates so much friction, over the course of 3 games you might move 25-30 boards.
2/23/2016 3:19 pm
Just finished reading about that 890... That's so sad.... With a rubber ball, on wooden lanes and he gets completely screwed like he did... That's just tragic.
2/23/2016 3:08 pm
Isn't there something about a 900 series too? Let me get that out. That's also at the heart of what I'm saying about the differences in the era's.... It wasn't just the equipment that was different. Glenn Allison had a 900 in 1982 in sanctioned league play but ABC refused to recognize it because of "non compliant" lane conditions.... Now lanes are certified and that lasts all season....
The first 6 reported 900 series were all rejected for certification....
2/23/2016 1:47 pm
If you're interested, here's a really good story on Mr. Orf's 890 series. The ABC (the sanctioning body at the time) refused the recognize it. There was nasty litigation which resulted in a settlement, but not recognition of the score. Mr. Orf never would talk much about what happened, but I have no doubt the score was legit. He was the best bowler I ever saw, and that includes Dick Weber.
Here's also a really cool video from the early 60's of something called "All-Star Bowling". The whole thing is way too long to watch, but it's worth clicking and watching the first few seconds if for no other reason than you might be familiar with the broadcaster.
Here's a story about the Orf family and the pro shop. Rich and I traveled together and were roommates during most of the time I bowled.
And here's a recent story on Rich's son, Andrew. He finished 3rd in the State of Illinois high school tournament that was held at St. Clair.
2/23/2016 1:33 pm
I think I remember that story Artie. I also took bowling in college.
I started attending the local community college in 1988, which was the year I was bowling my best. At the time, St. Louis had a league called the Anheuser Busch Masters Traveling League. There were 8 teams, and each team had 8 bowlers. Teams were actually chosen by a draft, and each team had to have one full-time touring PBA member and one part-time PBA member. Each team also had one "legend" member, who was essentially a big name from the past who rarely bowled. The league actually traveled around the metropolitan area, bowling on Tuesday nights in a different bowling alley each week. A-B sponsored the league (each team was sponsored by a different distributor) and added a decent amount of money into the end of the year prize fund.
The only full year I bowled was 88-89. I was drafted by a team captained by Neal Burton (his brother Bo partnered with Chris Schenkel on the ABC broadcasts for years). Our full-time PBA member was a guy named Rowdy Morrow. I was the part-time member, and our "legend" was Ray Bluth who was a member of the old Budweiser team that included Dick Weber, Don Carter and other big names.
So I'm taking this bowling/archery class for college and we're bowling at Crestwood Lanes, which just so happens to be owned by Mr. Bluth. We walk in on the first day, and our "teacher" is going over "bowling basics". About 10 minutes into the class, Mr. Bluth walks into the bowling alley with Dick Weber (who I'd known my whole life). They see me and walk over to say hello and find out why I'm there. The instructor is completely stunned because lecture has just been interrupted by two Hall of Fame bowlers (who later introduced themselves to the class) who happen to know one of her "students".
I got an A in the class, but just barely. I wasn't very good at the archery part.
2/23/2016 12:55 pm
Damn fors, I had no idea...
I don't know any of those people, but I'm sure Brian Steiger//Steven Schaefer do. They've been there forever. I am relatively new (3 years or so) out there and the house is so big, you don't really get a lot of chance to know folks. You ever want to come play again though you let me know. Don't worry about the bowling, just focus on the beer and the social.