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Cardinals/MLB » 2025 Cardinals » 4/03/2025 11:54 am

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On the odd chance someone actually checks, I’ll go ahead and start a thread.

If nothing else, we can laugh at the low attendance. A record low crowd on Monday followed by a new record low on Wednesday. St. Louis is really embracing what the ownership is selling. 😂😂

Cardinals/MLB » Cardinals 2024 » 5/06/2024 8:53 pm

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Life on the message board!!!

About 3-4 years ago we switched to YouTube TV and I don’t get Bally’s Sports. I found that I didn’t miss watching the Cardinals. I simply don’t find the team remotely interesting. Maybe I’ll change my tune when Moz finally retires, but they don’t care about winning so why should I care about them.

AP, hope things are well. Madison finished her 2 years at Kaskaskia. She’s on a 5 year plan, but she’s back home and starts at UM-St. Louis in the fall. She was on the Kaskaskia team that went to the JUCO World Series in 2023.

Bob leaves for medical school next month. He’s most likely headed to AT Still in Kirksville, but he’s still waiting to hear from the military’s medical school in Maryland. If they offer him a spot, he’ll take it.

Cardinals/MLB » Cardinals 2024 » 3/20/2024 8:53 am

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Jeez. I thought there was a better chance of finding life on Mars than life on this board.

Cardinals/MLB » Cards vs. Astros » 11/03/2022 9:12 pm

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LOL. Hey Don. Hope all is well.

Cardinals/MLB » Pujols redux » 9/24/2022 7:50 am

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Very cool that you got to see 696, but you'll be a bit late for 700. 

Cardinals/MLB » Non-DeJong Thread » 6/01/2022 10:43 pm

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Gorman is dealing with a back issue.

Cardinals/MLB » Non-DeJong Thread » 6/01/2022 8:13 pm

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APIAD wrote:

Hard to write it up better then that.  I love the Sac flies, stolen base and good outing by waino.  Pujols had a good game.  Held his own vs righties and was in the right place to face a lefty

Pujols is a perfect example of why I disagree with the idea that RBIs are a meaningless stat. Some people just know how to drive in runs. Players like Joey Gallo hit 40 HR and drive in 75 because they can’t shorten up and make contact with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 out. Pujols comes up in that situation, even at 42, and you assume he’ll get the run home.

Cardinals/MLB » Non-DeJong Thread » 5/28/2022 10:01 am

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artie_fufkin wrote:

Tommy Pham and Joc Pederson apparently got into an argument tonight about which one of them is more obnoxious. No punches thrown, but they agreed to meet on the playground after school to settle things once and for all.

Hey, the fantasy football waiver wire is serious business.

Cardinals/MLB » Non-DeJong Thread » 5/19/2022 9:59 pm

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APIAD wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Reportedly Gorman and Liberatore are joining the team in Pittsburgh

Hmm I wonder how that works.  It almost has to mean o niel is going down.  There isn't enough playing time to go around with another bat.

O’Neill on the DL

Cardinals/MLB » Non-DeJong Thread » 5/19/2022 4:54 pm

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Reportedly Gorman and Liberatore are joining the team in Pittsburgh

Cardinals/MLB » Non-DeJong Thread » 5/14/2022 7:39 am

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artie_fufkin wrote:

APIAD wrote:

The cards have a knack of being good enough to make you believe they are trying but bad enough to kill an excitement that I may of had.

They're built to win the NL Central, not compete with teams from the AL East.
 

Like the mighty Orioles???

Cardinals/MLB » The DeJong-o-Meter » 5/06/2022 8:42 am

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I haven’t read any of the articles, but have any of these geniuses like Jeff Passan considered that the reason offense is at an historic low might be because for a decade or more the sport has completely abandoned fundamentals like putting the ball in play, advancing runners and going the other way in favor of the “3 true outcomes” and telling guys not to abandon their approach when they’ve either struck out or pulled the ball into the shift for the 53rd time in a row?

Cardinals/MLB » The DeJong-o-Meter » 4/23/2022 6:41 pm

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APIAD wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

"Bernie did a piece yesterday about how dejong isn't doing to badly due to some outlying stats."

Without reading the article, I assume it's more of the same alphabet soup-based statistical gibberish that Carpenter's rumpswabs cited for the past three years to defend his diminished skills. 
Bill Parcells used to say "You are what you are." DeJong has been a sub-.200 hitter since 2020. That's what he is. 
And I suppose I could tolerate him a bit better if the Cardinals didn't have a better option languishing on the bench.

 

Yeah he was citing whatever Stat accounts for ballpark adjustment and what not.  Also citing how dejong ranks average for short stops in some ways.

I can listen to the Stat talk most of the time.  However when I am being told something and I am seeing something completely different i get disinterested. 

I think Sosa needs worked in more as well.  I wouldn't throw dejong out with the bath water just yet. 

I also am not sold on Gorman playing second and edmon short stop.  Gorman needs to stay in the minors for a while imo.  He is hitting with power but striking out to much.  I don't see that transferring to the big leagues well.

Hitting for power while striking out a ton makes him the perfect big leaguer.

Cardinals/MLB » Pham being Pham » 4/20/2022 6:06 pm

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All part of the Revenge Tour

Cardinals/MLB » 4/14 GC » 4/14/2022 6:33 pm

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Pujols have some good history against Woodruff? Why is he playing against a RHP?

Cardinals/MLB » 4/10 GC » 4/13/2022 6:06 pm

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APIAD wrote:

For the decent upside to the lineup I don't mind dejong.  If him and out of shape molina are your worst hitters I will take it.  If dejong sucks again Sosa will infiltrate his way in.  Also I don't see Trevor story as the answer to ss. 

Imo, the reason this team will miss the playoffs is starting pitching.  The money shouldn't have been spent on ss but instead on pitching imo.

Sosa is a better offensive SS and a much better defensive SS. He also brings speed. If you take out his rookie season, DeJong is a career .229 hitter. The only reason he’s playing over Sosa is his contract and the fact Moz unnecessarily signed him to a stupid extension.

I’m not saying they should have signed Story. I’m saying simply play the best player on your roster, not the one you’re paying the most. Completely agree they should have went after more pitching.

Cardinals/MLB » 4/10 GC » 4/13/2022 1:19 pm

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artie_fufkin wrote:

It will be interesting to see what happens when the Cardinals play an actual major league team instead of a couple of glorified Triple A teams. 
My primary concern is what happens at shortstop. I read an article yesterday that predicted Sosa would be in Memphis by May 1. I'm not sure why, because he's by far the best option they have on the roster at shortstop and they really don't have an adequate backup, unless you count the guy who inexplicably has been starting for the past four games and has two hits in 16 plate appearances; three if you count the routine fly ball that almost bounced off the centerfielder's head last night and was ruled a double by the official scorekeeper, who I have to assume is DeJong's aunt. 

I’m sure someone in the front office would be willing to tell you how you shouldn’t trust your eyes, and how their internal metrics will support the idea that DeJong has just been unlucky. Never mind the fact he’s a .230 hitter over his last 1,500 at bats. At some point he will revert to the guy who hit .280 in 2017, and how dare you suggest otherwise. And it definitely has nothing to do with DeJong’s salary or the fact that Moz foolishly decided to give him a long-term contract.

Cardinals/MLB » 2022 cards » 4/07/2022 8:13 pm

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APIAD wrote:

Not a bad game but the pirates suck

You’re probably being too kind. I’m not sure what comes below “suck,” but they’re somewhere down there.

I am curious to watch the kid who pitches for them on Saturday. He was really bad last year, but he was a pretty highly regarded prospect with a good arm who had a good spring.

Cardinals/MLB » 2022 cards » 4/07/2022 4:54 pm

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APIAD wrote:

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APIAD wrote:


Nope I'm further south, thankfully. Near Olney il.
 

Really??  Weather permitting, we play at Olney on Friday

If I didn't have ahit going on I'd come down and say hi

Games at Olney were postponed.

Cardinals/MLB » 2022 cards » 4/07/2022 4:53 pm

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APIAD wrote:

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APIAD wrote:

I think it works. In the short term. However you are adding alot of innings onto your pen. You better have some breathing room in the minors if you are going to give the bullpen 30 starts a year.

I don't think the plan is to do it for the entire year.  But during April, rosters are increased to 28 players, and the Cardinals are carrying 15 pitchers.  

I knew rosters expanded but I thought it was 26 not 28. Hell I can't keep up.

I admitted it isn't the worst thing in the world and might be the best option right now. Maybe they will even work hicks into a larger inning role. Idk. I question their rotation. It looks weak to me. If you are going to be weak at the top I think you should at least be strong at the back end. They are neither.

They should have went after another starter.  San Diego got Sean Manaea for virtually nothing, and they're likely still willing to move Frankie Montas.  The Cardinals are also about $25-30M below last year's salary, so they could have gone after a free agent also.

Going into the season, the rotation was 40-year old Wainwright, Flaherty (returning from injury), Hudson (returning from injury), Mikolas (returning from injury) and Matz (who almost always has an injury each year).  They wanted the fans to believe that with Reyes, Liberatore, Oviedo and Woodford they had depth.  Anyone with a brain knew that wasn't the case.

You and I are on the same page that they should have done more to address it before spring training ever began.  They've already lost Flaherty (and I'll bet anyone right now he doesn't make 10 starts this season).  They were fooling themselves that Reyes could become a starter, and it seems very foolish to assume Mikolas, Hudson and Matz will make 30 starts each.  You see a number of teams now going to 6-man rotations.  The Cardinals would have been smart to have done the same thing, that way they could have gone back to 5 when someone (in

Cardinals/MLB » 2022 cards » 4/07/2022 11:52 am

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APIAD wrote:

I think it works. In the short term. However you are adding alot of innings onto your pen. You better have some breathing room in the minors if you are going to give the bullpen 30 starts a year.

I don't think the plan is to do it for the entire year.  But during April, rosters are increased to 28 players, and the Cardinals are carrying 15 pitchers.  

Cardinals/MLB » 2022 cards » 4/06/2022 10:08 pm

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APIAD wrote:

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APIAD wrote:

Jordan hicks is the 5th starter I guess.  Likely a bullpen game.  Talk about poor roster set up.

I won’t write it off yet. With the expanded rosters in April, they can probably make an occasional bullpen game work. Tampa and Milwaukee have done it pretty successfully the past few years.

What is hicks going to give you?  2 innings?  I think the Brad Thompson bullpen games.  A semi starter.

Initially, yeah that’s probably about it until he gets a little stretched out.

Tampa does it all the time. Starter goes 2-3 innings. The question is whether the bullpen is good enough to make it work. I’m not saying it’s ideal, but it’s almost certainly a better option than Juan Oviedo.

Cardinals/MLB » 2022 cards » 4/06/2022 5:25 pm

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APIAD wrote:

Jordan hicks is the 5th starter I guess.  Likely a bullpen game.  Talk about poor roster set up.

I won’t write it off yet. With the expanded rosters in April, they can probably make an occasional bullpen game work. Tampa and Milwaukee have done it pretty successfully the past few years.

Cardinals/MLB » 2022 cards » 4/05/2022 1:47 pm

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APIAD wrote:

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AP, remind me again what part of Illinois you’re in.

We’ve been making the tour of many of Illinois’ finer stops because my daughter is playing softball for a JUCO over there. Most of her conference is south of Springfield. For some reason I’m remembering you being further north.

Nope I'm further south, thankfully. Near Olney il.
 

Really??  Weather permitting, we play at Olney on Friday

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