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WTF are the Giants doing?
It was just announced that the Giants have signed Matt Cain to a 5 year/$112.5M extension. That's $22.5M per season.
I don't mean to restart the great debate over the value of Wins as a statistic, but for his career, Cain is 69-73. That's a .486 winning percentage. Even in his last three seasons (by far his best), he's only 39-30, an average of 13-10.
Both Jake Westbrook (85-84, .503) and Kyle Lohse (102-106, .490) have a higher career winning percentage.
Yes, I realize Cain is durable and that is 3-year ERA is below 3, but at the end of the day, the bottom line is winning ballgames, and 13-10 isn't all that impressive. Certainly not $22.5M/year impressive.
If that's the right value, how much is Wainwright worth? For that matter, how much will the Giants have to pay if they want to keep Lincecum?
- artie_fufkin
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Re: WTF are the Giants doing?
My reactions were roughly the same as yours:
First: "That's a lot of dough for a guy who's never won more than 14 games on some pretty good teams ..."
Second: "What the hell is Wainwright going to get?"
Third: "They'd better make a duplicate key to the vault for Lincecum ..."
- tkihshbt
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Re: WTF are the Giants doing?
I think the deal is out of whack because Matt Cain is just a pretty good pitcher with one terrific season and a bunch of other pretty good ones. He has a good strikeout rate, doesn't walk many batters and keeps the ball in the park, plus he has pitched 200+ innings (well, 190 in 2006 as a 21-year-old) for six straight seasons, but he's just not an ace. I guess if the Giants think he's going to keep being that durable and that reliable, he's worth it...but whatever.
- APIAD
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Re: WTF are the Giants doing?
I think this is the price tag that we will see applied to Wainwright. You cant pay a pitcher much more.