Id have to look up the detail to really give my opinion but first thought is Hanley will never be the player he is paid to be and Hamels was a good extension.  Hanley isnt that good of a third baseman and his hitting isnt any better then last year.  Unless the Marlins ate alot of salary this is a mistake IMO.

Yahoo:
"Seeking to revive a stagnant offense, the Los Angeles Dodgers have acquired third baseman Hanley Ramirez and reliever Randy Choate from the Miami Marlins in exchange for pitcher Nathan Eovaldi and minor-league pitcher Scott McGough, a source familiar with the trade said late Tuesday night.
"Ramirez will join the Dodgers in St. Louis and could initially play a game or two at third base for manager Don Mattingly, but has been told he should expect to cover for Dee Gordon at shortstop for a period of time."

This is probably a move the Dodgers had to make, but I'm not sure if they got the right guy. On the other hand, just about anyone is better than Adam Kennedy at third.
I liked Eovaldi the couple of times I've seen him pitch. He's not consistent, but not too many young pitchers are.
On the other end, it would be interesting to see if the dynamic changed between ownership in Miami and Hanley, or if this was strictly a personnel issue.

Taxpayer financed stadium- check
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Off-season spending spree to invigorate fan base- check
Mid-season fire sale- check


If Miami had any real fans, would it shock anyone if they decided to go "Benito Mussolini" on Jeffrey Loria's ass?

forsberg_us wrote:

Taxpayer financed stadium- check
New name, new uniforms, new team image- check
Off-season spending spree to invigorate fan base- check
Mid-season fire sale- check


If Miami had any real fans, would it shock anyone if they decided to go "Benito Mussolini" on Jeffrey Loria's ass?

Concise analysis - Rec
Trenchant commentary with relevant analogy - Rec

It's hard to say what Wainwright could conceivably get. He's not a free agent until he turns 32, which lowers his leverage compared to Hamels (28) and Cain (27). My guess is that whatever Greinke signs for is what Wainwright can expect. Greinke doesn't have Cain's reputation as some mythical big game pitcher, so I'll peg their respective contracts around 6 years/$110 million.

The Cardinals' ability to afford that is a tough one, though. I don't know if they can.

tkihshbt wrote:

It's hard to say what Wainwright could conceivably get. He's not a free agent until he turns 32, which lowers his leverage compared to Hamels (28) and Cain (27). My guess is that whatever Greinke signs for is what Wainwright can expect. Greinke doesn't have Cain's reputation as some mythical big game pitcher, so I'll peg their respective contracts around 6 years/$110 million.

The Cardinals' ability to afford that is a tough one, though. I don't know if they can.

Cain preformed in the post season.  That makes a guy alot of money.  Like you said, Greinke has never pitched an important game in his life untill last year when he failed.  Wainwright pitched well in the post season but that was 6 years ago and had a good game in 2009 is only postseason start during a nightmare series.  Wainwright just miss a whole year to injury and is having a very average year this year.  It is pretty clear he is on the right track and is regaining everything he lost.  If the Cardinals wait till after the 2013 season to resign him they are basicly betting against him and figuring 2013 is going to be another average year or he is going to get reinjured.  Every start he makes from here on out his value goes up.  The sooner the better.  It better happen during the off season.

forsberg_us wrote:

Taxpayer financed stadium- check
New name, new uniforms, new team image- check
Off-season spending spree to invigorate fan base- check
Mid-season fire sale- check

You forgot to mention the dancing senoritas.

"Palettastein's monster"

Darth Carpenter?

So the Angles have interest in Scrabble.  Hard to believe the Cardinals would gain much by trading him.  He sucks.

APIAD wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

"Also if Manny can make it in LA the Hanley will be considered a saint."

The numbers Manny started putting up when he got to L.A. suggest he was back on his fertility medication.

I was talking about attitude fitting in more so then numbers when I mentioned Manny.  Hanley has kind of been known to be a whiner.

I don't think Manny has ever fit in anywhere he's ever gone. The teams he played for elected to put up with his nonsense.

"So the Angles have interest in Scrabble.  Hard to believe the Cardinals would gain much by trading him."

They could send that Pujols fella back over. It would be hard to get him at bats in the Cardinals' lineup, but he'd be a decent right-handed bat off the bench.

The Victor Marte nightmare is over. He's been optioned and Fuentes has been activated.