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11/05/2010 9:58 pm  #26


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artie_fufkin wrote:

but after awhile you just sort of learn to accept the randomness of the whole thing.

I accept nothing.  Fors cheated when he outbid me for those two players.  You cheated by having fewer points scored against you. The whole thing stinks to high heaven, and I would bring the law down on you all, except that by the end my skill and perspicacity will have me in first place.  Bring it on sucker, cause you are going down!

 

11/05/2010 10:20 pm  #27


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artie_fufkin wrote:

"Part of that is because I've never played a low-scoring, shitty team, like my own, but another part is luck, as evidenced by the fact that AP has the highest scoring team, but also second highest PA."

And you've captured the essence of head-to-head fantasy football. I used to get really annoyed when I'd put up the second-most points in my league and still lose, but after awhile you just sort of learn to accept the randomness of the whole thing.
Fantasy baseball is a much more accurate test of baseball acumen because, as you say, of the sample size. I've been in a league for the past 10 years or so with the guys I played old fart baseball with, and the same two guys finish first and second every year. Over the course of a decade, that's not an accident.

Fantasy baseball is all about knowing how the scoring works and having a balanced team.  The last two years I killed in RBIs, HRs and Ws but had average teams.  My ERA, WHIP and BA was in the pits.  Another thing that differs between Baseball and football is that football is a sprint and baseball is a marathon.  Plus I suck at following anything AL related.

 

11/05/2010 11:50 pm  #28


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artie_fufkin wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

If Todd Haley wasn't coaching the Chiefs, Jamaal Charles would be the No. 1 fantasy running back in 2010.

I don't know how. The Chiefs are already the only team in the league that has more rushing yards than passing yards. What do you want them to do, run the wishbone?

Not use Thomas Jones.

 

11/05/2010 11:59 pm  #29


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Speaking of the wishbone, there's a high school team that used to be in My Team's district that still uses the wishbone. Up until a few years ago, they dominated south central Missouri football, and that was a big deal because all those kids do is play football. The wishbone was devastating. Unless you had the athletes (and usually only four or five schools in their class did), you couldn't stop it. The best teams could hope for was to make them grind out these 16-play drives that took up eight or nine minutes. It was that or give up a 78-yard run.

 

11/06/2010 3:13 pm  #30


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Max wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

but after awhile you just sort of learn to accept the randomness of the whole thing.

I accept nothing.  Fors cheated when he outbid me for those two players.  You cheated by having fewer points scored against you. The whole thing stinks to high heaven, and I would bring the law down on you all, except that by the end my skill and perspicacity will have me in first place.  Bring it on sucker, cause you are going down!

Oh god. We've turned Max into a fantasy crackhead.

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11/06/2010 3:17 pm  #31


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APRTW wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

"Part of that is because I've never played a low-scoring, shitty team, like my own, but another part is luck, as evidenced by the fact that AP has the highest scoring team, but also second highest PA."

And you've captured the essence of head-to-head fantasy football. I used to get really annoyed when I'd put up the second-most points in my league and still lose, but after awhile you just sort of learn to accept the randomness of the whole thing.
Fantasy baseball is a much more accurate test of baseball acumen because, as you say, of the sample size. I've been in a league for the past 10 years or so with the guys I played old fart baseball with, and the same two guys finish first and second every year. Over the course of a decade, that's not an accident.

Fantasy baseball is all about knowing how the scoring works and having a balanced team.  The last two years I killed in RBIs, HRs and Ws but had average teams.  My ERA, WHIP and BA was in the pits.  Another thing that differs between Baseball and football is that football is a sprint and baseball is a marathon.  Plus I suck at following anything AL related.

That's kind of an unusual breakdown. Most teams excel at either offense or defense and then suck at the other. I had one year when I had Sooser and Grumpy Jr. and hit about 800 homers, and my pitchers had about two dozen wins.

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11/06/2010 3:27 pm  #32


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tkihshbt wrote:

Speaking of the wishbone, there's a high school team that used to be in My Team's district that still uses the wishbone. Up until a few years ago, they dominated south central Missouri football, and that was a big deal because all those kids do is play football. The wishbone was devastating. Unless you had the athletes (and usually only four or five schools in their class did), you couldn't stop it. The best teams could hope for was to make them grind out these 16-play drives that took up eight or nine minutes. It was that or give up a 78-yard run.

The flavor of the month in HS football is the spread. If you're a small school, you recruit a pitcher from the baseball team who can throw it and two or three basketball players who can catch it and you've got yourself an offense. The coaches love it because it makes them look smart to people who don't know what they're watching, but I've mostly seen three basic plays - bubble screen, slant and fly.

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11/06/2010 7:05 pm  #33


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artie_fufkin wrote:

That's kind of an unusual breakdown. Most teams excel at either offense or defense and then suck at the other. I had one year when I had Sooser and Grumpy Jr. and hit about 800 homers, and my pitchers had about two dozen wins.

I drafted to many Jeff Suppan wanabes.  Pitchers who alway get a decision and never strike anyone out. 

I play the randomly put together leagues.  So it isnt easy to gauge how well you are doing.  Have the people give up by the all star break.

 

11/07/2010 12:18 am  #34


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artie_fufkin wrote:

The flavor of the month in HS football is the spread. If you're a small school, you recruit a pitcher from the baseball team who can throw it and two or three basketball players who can catch it and you've got yourself an offense. The coaches love it because it makes them look smart to people who don't know what they're watching, but I've mostly seen three basic plays - bubble screen, slant and fly.

Seems about right. The spread offense was non-existent to the area I cover until 2006. This team that had been kinda lousy got a spread guru, got their offensive lineman bulked up and after one season were dropping 50 points on everyone. The quarterback was just a sophomore and he had something like 45 touchdown passes. He's starting for a D1 school now.

I think it was Mike Leach who talked about how easy it was to run the spread because all you had to do was teach a kid a new place to stand and you had 15 new plays.

 

11/07/2010 1:05 pm  #35


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tkihshbt wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

The flavor of the month in HS football is the spread. If you're a small school, you recruit a pitcher from the baseball team who can throw it and two or three basketball players who can catch it and you've got yourself an offense. The coaches love it because it makes them look smart to people who don't know what they're watching, but I've mostly seen three basic plays - bubble screen, slant and fly.

Seems about right. The spread offense was non-existent to the area I cover until 2006. This team that had been kinda lousy got a spread guru, got their offensive lineman bulked up and after one season were dropping 50 points on everyone. The quarterback was just a sophomore and he had something like 45 touchdown passes. He's starting for a D1 school now.

I think it was Mike Leach who talked about how easy it was to run the spread because all you had to do was teach a kid a new place to stand and you had 15 new plays.

The guy who started it here was a few years ahead of the curve. He installed the spread in 2001 after watching his team with 250 boys in the school get pounded every week by teams that had a pool of 1,000 kids. I'd say about 75 percent of the teams in that conference run the spread now, with varying degrees of success. The HS team in the town I live in runs the spread, but they mostly hand off the ball to their running back because neither one of the two QBs they alternate on every play can throw.
I sometimes think the goal is to prove to the other team's coach how smart you are, rather than to win the game.

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11/07/2010 1:14 pm  #36


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artie_fufkin wrote:

I sometimes think the goal is to prove to the other team's coach how smart you are, rather than to win the game.

That often becomes the goal when success cannot be reasonably assured by other means.  I am convinced that 90% of jazz musicians began as wanna-be pop stars, but discovered to their chagrin that they could not make popular music.  so they make cerebral and dextrous music, and claim the moral high ground.

 

11/07/2010 6:23 pm  #37


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Darth must have me corrupted. After the Raiders returned the ball for a touchdown I was wondering what penalty would be called.

 

11/07/2010 6:24 pm  #38


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12 penalties on one team in 34 minutes of football.

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11/07/2010 6:40 pm  #39


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tkihshbt wrote:

Darth must have me corrupted. After the Raiders returned the ball for a touchdown I was wondering what penalty would be called.

Penalty #13. It's almost like they can't help themselves.

Nice Seahawks, Max.

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11/07/2010 6:47 pm  #40


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Penalty #14

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11/07/2010 6:52 pm  #41


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artie_fufkin wrote:

Nice Seahawks, Max.

surprisingly stingy defense this year.

speaking of which, what's up with jason cambell?  i spent $10 and started him over diamond jim brady, who scored 17+ fantasy points?

 

11/07/2010 6:58 pm  #42


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I love this. NFL.com just buzzed a "big play alert" for the Seahags stopping the Giants on fourth down. The score is 41-7.

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11/07/2010 7:04 pm  #43


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"what's up with jason cambell?"

The 62 holding penalties on the Raiders' offense in this game might have something to do with his ineffectiveness.

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11/07/2010 7:47 pm  #44


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No wonder Darth cries conspiracy.

 

11/07/2010 7:52 pm  #45


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It's easy to call heads or tails when the coin is already on the ground.

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11/07/2010 8:00 pm  #46


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Who in the hell is this Ford kid?

 

11/07/2010 8:01 pm  #47


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I guess that "Raiders resurgence" isn't far off, eh?

 

11/07/2010 8:02 pm  #48


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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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11/07/2010 8:03 pm  #49


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tkihshbt wrote:

Who in the hell is this Ford kid?

Rookie from Tennessee.

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11/07/2010 8:05 pm  #50


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artie_fufkin wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

Who in the hell is this Ford kid?

Rookie from Tennessee.

Clemson.

 

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