Of course he is. Guy's a warrior. 

"The 2005 NL Cy Young Award winner recently resumed a throwing program at Busch Stadium less than three months after weakness, pain and discoloration in his right side forced him to wave off spring training."

I'm 45 now. Some mornings I wake up and something's a little sore. Sometimes I don't feel as strong as usual. I've never woke up and found anything the wrong color, but I'm pretty sure if I did and I knew the cause, I'd stop doing whatever caused it. 

forsberg_us wrote:

Of course he is. Guy's a warrior. 

"The 2005 NL Cy Young Award winner recently resumed a throwing program at Busch Stadium less than three months after weakness, pain and discoloration in his right side forced him to wave off spring training."

I'm 45 now. Some mornings I wake up and something's a little sore. Sometimes I don't feel as strong as usual. I've never woke up and found anything the wrong color, but I'm pretty sure if I did and I knew the cause, I'd stop doing whatever caused it. 

Yeah, this is the point where a family member or someone else who gives a crap about him steps in and says "You've got all the money you need. You've got two rings. Your reputation is secure. Don't do this."
 

Last edited by artie_fufkin (5/04/2013 10:17 am)

At this point it's less about whether he hurts the bullpen and more about will he be able to lift his arm later in life. 

I appreciate the effort, but I'm with Artie. If something was causing his arm to become discolored, that's a bigger concern than the success of the 2013 Cardinals. 

The mistake the cardinals made was starting him last year.  They should have been selective and used him out of the pen, imo.  

Montana's problems were mostly due to an injured elbow, but he took a pounding his last couple of years because he was immobile. I think it was during his first season in Kansas City when a linebacker from the Raiders named Aaron Wallace was chasing Montana toward the Chiefs' sideline. Montana pulled his hamstring, fell to the ground and about a half-dozen of Marty Schottenheimer's thugs pounced on Wallace and beat him to a pulp. Wallace never touched Montana, but the officials penalized him 15 yards for unnecessary roughness and threw him out of the game.

I think this is huge.  There is nobody more focused then carp.  I domt see how just him being there doesnt improve the pen.  If he can come out and pitch wellit will be amazing.  he justfinds a wayto get it done. 

forsberg_us wrote:

Carpenter threw a 75 pitch bullpen session today. Apparently no pain or numbness reported. 

Anything discolored?
 

I honestly don't think it would have mattered. Carpenter is trying to return with a body that just isn't going to allow it.

Probably the best thing for this team is that he remain visible while attempting his comeback, but never touch the mound. It's unlikely he'd ever be successful as a starter, and as a reliever he'd probably be unavailable more days than he'd be available.

Last edited by forsberg_us (6/21/2013 9:19 am)

I still have no idea why he's doing this.

95 mph fastball?  Sounds like he was a bit jacked up.

I'm not holding my breath,  but this team could use this comeback in the worst possible way. 

forsberg_us wrote:

Carpenter's next start is Saturday for Memphis.

So I take it there were no discolored body parts after his last outing?
 

artie_fufkin wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Carpenter's next start is Saturday for Memphis.

So I take it there were no discolored body parts after his last outing?
 

At least none that are vital to pitching.

FWIW, I haven't seen this reported on the Cardinals or P-D websites.  It was on Rotoworld with a link to a Memphis sportscaster's Twitter page.  However, Springfield shows Seth Blair as starting Saturday on the road.  The Memphis website has Saturday's starter as TBD, but they are playing at home.

Last edited by forsberg_us (7/18/2013 1:15 pm)