don.rob11 wrote:

how long do we wait to find out if Cruz is legal ?.

My fantasy team hopes we wait until 2014. 

forsberg_us wrote:

Max wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Just by me.
 

I always knew you and I thought alike, Artie.

I expect some sort of discussion along these lines will begin among the fringe Cardinals journo/bloggers, and if any of the pitchers show delayed development in Memphis, the story will move the the PD.  

Other than Wacha and Martinez, both of whom pitched well in St. Louis and have since been sent back, none of the pitchers that were called up were "promising young rookies."

I suppose you could throw Maness in that group, but he's pitched pretty well also.

Who specifically are you concerned about?

Wacha.
 

What was the error on Miller all about?

We're making this guy look like Cy ...

There are a lot of good pitchers in baseball, but anyone else notice that Max Scherzer is 3 outs away from going 11-0, has an ERA of 3, a WHIP of 0.9 and is on pace to strike out about 250-260?

don.rob11 wrote:

Threw a simple bunt low and away to Craig / Manness saved his butt...

 

Pitcher was bunting with two outs? I guess it worked. He got on base.

don.rob11 wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

There are a lot of good pitchers in baseball, but anyone else notice that Max Scherzer is 3 outs away from going 11-0, has an ERA of 3, a WHIP of 0.9 and is on pace to strike out about 250-260?

He has been outstanding ....
 

Who did the Diamondbacks get in that trade? I'm guessing it wasn't enough.
 

Holliday still leading the league in that category ?

artie_fufkin wrote:

don.rob11 wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

There are a lot of good pitchers in baseball, but anyone else notice that Max Scherzer is 3 outs away from going 11-0, has an ERA of 3, a WHIP of 0.9 and is on pace to strike out about 250-260?

He has been outstanding ....
 

Who did the Diamondbacks get in that trade? I'm guessing it wasn't enough.
 

3 team deal. Arizona got Ian Kennedy and Edwin Jackson. Detroit got Scherzer and Austin Jackson. Yankees got Granderson. Pretty sure there were some lesser names involved also. 
 

Come back tomorrow ...

forsberg_us wrote:

Max wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Other than Wacha and Martinez, both of whom pitched well in St. Louis and have since been sent back, none of the pitchers that were called up were "promising young rookies."

I suppose you could throw Maness in that group, but he's pitched pretty well also.

Who specifically are you concerned about?

Do you really want to do this, because I sure don't.
 

It's a simple question, isn't it?

When will you stop beating your wife? It's a simple question, isn't it?

God I am tired of this BS Fors.  Let it rest.
 

Well let's get back to issue of beating your wife, at what point do you consider the violence you do to be a beating?  Isn't it possible that what you do is beating your wife by some persons standards, but you just don't consider it beating?  . . . get the picture?

"If you don't like these conversations, don't try to manufacture controversy where none exists."

I agree, and manufacturing controversy is exactly what you are doing.

Max wrote:

Well let's get back to issue of beating your wife, at what point do you consider the violence you do to be a beating?  Isn't it possible that what you do is beating your wife by some persons standards, but you just don't consider it beating?  . . . get the picture?

"If you don't like these conversations, don't try to manufacture controversy where none exists."

I agree, and manufacturing controversy is exactly what you are doing.

The only guy manufacturing anything is the guy who's apparently too cowardly to answer a simple question. 

I'll even make it simple for you. Here are the rookies who have pitched for the Cardinals this year:

Starters:
Miller
Wacha
Gast
Lyons

Relievers:

Rosenthal
Manness
Siegrist
Martinez
Blazek
Butler

Feel free to pick as many as you like.