Webstergrovesalum wrote:

Sorry to see Hawpe with the Padres.  He can really hit when he's "on".  How about that deal given to Carlos Gonzales by The Rockies? It's a seven year 80 million dollar deal!  Pending a physical exam of course but wow!  Who would have thought that the Rockies management would spring for sooooo much money for two players? He & Tulo have become good friends & they better live up to the expected potential or the fan base will turn.

I have a feeling Cargo is the real thing, Web. Money well spent, IMO.

artie_fufkin wrote:

Webstergrovesalum wrote:

Sorry to see Hawpe with the Padres.  He can really hit when he's "on".  How about that deal given to Carlos Gonzales by The Rockies? It's a seven year 80 million dollar deal!  Pending a physical exam of course but wow!  Who would have thought that the Rockies management would spring for sooooo much money for two players? He & Tulo have become good friends & they better live up to the expected potential or the fan base will turn.

I have a feeling Cargo is the real thing, Web. Money well spent, IMO.

I guess I have to agree!  The Rockies 'did good' as they say, when they traded for him!  They also got Huston Street in that deal so it's one of the best trades I've seen them make (happy)

Does anyone else think that Capuano for $1.5 million sounds like a deal that the Cards should have been mulling over, especially given their particularly actue need for left-handed pitching this year?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=An4EjotQhfVts5CNUCYekjERvLYF?slug=ap-metsmoves

"Does anyone else think that Capuano for $1.5 million sounds like a deal that the Cards should have been mulling over"

Does anyone else ever read anything I write, or am I just here to exercise my fucking fingers?

Last edited by artie_fufkin (1/04/2011 9:24 pm)

It means he's going to be the worst DH in baseball.

artie_fufkin wrote:

"Does anyone else think that Capuano for $1.5 million sounds like a deal that the Cards should have been mulling over"

Does anyone else ever read anything I write, or am I just here to exercise my fucking fingers?

APRTW wrote:

Chris Capuano to the Mets for 1.5million.  That might not have been a bad deal for the Cardinals.

I agreed with you before you even said it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AowGkxNzaA.JW45.XvPMDK85nYcB?slug=ap-rangers-beltre


6 years for 96 million on Beltre.

forsberg_us wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

It means he's going to be the worst DH in baseball.

Isn't Vlad Guerrero the DH?  Or is he unsigned?

They didnt resign him.  I am not sure why.  I remember them say they would like to resign him under the right conditions but dont know what they ment by that.

APRTW wrote:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AowGkxNzaA.JW45.XvPMDK85nYcB?slug=ap-rangers-beltre


6 years for 96 million on Beltre.

That's almost a Holliday sized contract for a guy who only performs like Holliday, seemingly, in his walk year.

forsberg_us wrote:

Uggla signed 5 year, $62.5 deal.

$12.5 million per year for 5 years?!?  does anybody else think that is bizarrely below expectations?  Given what Werth got ($18 million for 7 years), what should a power-hitting 2B get?

Werth: 32 in May
Uggla: 31 in March

Werth
Year    Team    G    AB    R    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    BB    K    SB    CS    AVG    OBP    SLG    OPS    
2002    TOR    15    46    4    12    2    1    0    6    6    11    1    0    .261    .340    .348    .687    
2003    TOR    26    48    7    10    4    0    2    10    3    22    1    0    .208    .255    .417    .672    
2004    LA    89    290    56    76    11    3    16    47    30    85    4    1    .262    .338    .486    .825    
2005    LAD    102    337    46    79    22    2    7    43    48    114    11    2    .234    .338    .374    .711    
2007    PHI    94    255    43    76    11    3    8    49    44    73    7    1    .298    .404    .459    .863    
2008    PHI    134    418    73    114    16    3    24    67    57    119    20    1    .273    .363    .498    .861    
2009    PHI    159    571    98    153    26    1    36    99    91    156    20    3    .268    .373    .506    .879    
2010    PHI    156    554    106    164    46    2    27    85    82    147    13    3    .296    .388    .532    .921    
Career         775    2519    433    684    138    15    120    406    361    727    77    11    .272    .367    .481    .848   

Uggla
Year    Team    G    AB    R    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    BB    K    SB    CS    AVG    OBP    SLG    OPS    
2006    FLA    154    611    105    172    26    7    27    90    48    123    6    6    .282    .339    .480    .818    
2007    FLA    159    632    113    155    49    3    31    88    68    167    2    1    .245    .326    .479    .805    
2008    FLA    146    531    97    138    37    1    32    92    77    171    5    5    .260    .360    .514    .874    
2009    FLA    158    564    84    137    27    1    31    90    92    150    2    1    .243    .354    .459    .813    
2010    FLA    159    589    100    169    31    0    33    105    78    149    4    1    .287    .369    .508    .877    
Career         776    2927    499    771    170    12    154    465    363    760    19    14    .263    .349    .488    .837

That's probably a good contract for the Braves. Uggla will eventually have to be moved off second base.

I think it's weird that Cardinals fans were wanting Uggla, since he has all the warts Colby Rasmus has, minus the annoying father.

forsberg_us wrote:

Read somewhere it's the largest contract ever paid a second baseman

Chase Utley got a 7/85 contract which is larger then Ugglas.  Robinson Cano got a 4/30 with two option years for 14 and 15 million and Brian Roberts got a 10 mill a year contract.  Those would be slightly smaller.

APRTW wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

That's probably a good contract for the Braves. Uggla will eventually have to be moved off second base.

I think it's weird that Cardinals fans were wanting Uggla, since he has all the warts Colby Rasmus has, minus the annoying father.

Werth got way more then he should have and I think Cardinal fans dixation with Uggla has to do as much with the crappy production we have seen out of seconds base over the past few years as it does with Uggla.  That and our weak ass lineup.

Uggla had 58 HR after his 2nd season playing 2B, Colby has 39 after two years in CF.  Money aside, the offense would probably be better with Schu in CF and Uggla at 2B, than Rasmus in CF and Schu at 2B. 

We are all waiting on pins and needles for Rasmus to start putting up Uggla-like numbers.