artie_fufkin wrote:

"Deidre's tirade against the Cardinals wasn't an act."

Anyone who thinks their god cares about where they play baseball isn't acting.

So if god wanted pujols to have 300 million doallar does that mean he wants me to be broke?
 

Speaking for Artie now, but I think he's saying that the Angels were foolishly chasing headlines in a city that is dominated by the Dodgers and Lakers, which makes Moreno dumb for spending over $400 million on three players. You're not going to dethrone the Dodgers. It's just not possible. Now he's got two players in their early to mid-30s who are paid exorbitant salaries which have gotten them nowhere near the playoffs.

tkihshbt wrote:

I didn't know that. Sterling is easily the most reprehensible owner. If the Rams leave for L.A., Stan Kroenke will be the new No. 1.

Kroenke better start spending money on soccer players, or he's going to be burned in effigy in North London.
The Buffalo Braves/Boston Celtics swap is probably second only to the Florida Marlins/Boston Red Sox/Montreal Expos manure festival in the history of sports ownership shenanigans.
The Braves were owned by John Y. Brown, who basically built his fortune by franchising Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurants and became governor of Kentucky. The Celtics were owned by Irv Levin, a shady Hollywood-type whose personality and reputation were too distatsteful for even the NBA (a remarkable achievement in the '70s, when players were snorting cocaine in the locker rooms).
Levin wanted to move the Celtics to the West Coast for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the Celtics have always had a hard time making money because the buildings in which they've played have been owned by the Bruins, but Larry O'Brien, who was the NBA Commissioner at the time, told him there was no way he was relocating the most successful franchise in the history of the league, so O'Brien arranged a swap with Brown, who was more than willing to leave Buffalo.
The interesting dynamic was the teams had to trade their players to each other as part of the deal. Most of them anyway. I think the Celtics ended up with Tiny Archibald and a couple of other guys from the Braves, and the Braves wound up with a couple of scrubs from the Cetlics. The league tried unsuccessfuly to keep that part of it quiet, and someone in the Boston media noted John Havlicek, maybe the most popular Celtics' player of all-time, was actually property of the Buffalo Braves for about a half-hour. 
Levin moved the Braves to San Diego, where they became the Clippers, then sold to Sterling, who moved them to L.A.

 

APIAD wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

"Deidre's tirade against the Cardinals wasn't an act."

Anyone who thinks their god cares about where they play baseball isn't acting.

So if god wanted pujols to have 300 million doallar does that mean he wants me to be broke?
 

Rec.
If god had liked you, he would have taught you how to hit a curve.

Meh, I'm not sure I agree with the malice is all. Jones and Moreno aren't hated for spending money on their teams... They are hated because they want to be the GM as well as the owner, and they don't win. Winning and losing falls directly on the GM who is fired by the owner if he fails... For Jones and Snyder, that's impossible.

Anyway you should be thanking Pujols God sincerely every night for the Angels taking him. I just don't understand the angst towards a man who did us a 200 million dollar favor....

I have no angst at all. I've been pretty consistent that I want Pujols to do well. It would be amazing to see the Angels and Cardinals in the World Series. Under Moreno, though, I don't see that coming to pass.

There are certain types who are angry towards Pujols, but they think Stan Musial stayed a Cardinal because he wanted to. 

Though this never gets old ...

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/homer-history--albert-pujols-brad-lidge-2005-playoffs-passan-003619840.html

Cracks the Mendoza line!
Now batting .204.
After today, Pujols is still yet to be paid $161,567,902 by the Angels.

Obviously, this gets more speculative with each subsequent season, but it's an interesting read:

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-louis-cardinals-sabermetrics-analysis/2017/2/21/14589414/what-if-the-cardinals-had-signed-albert-pujols-after-2011

Me to!  Congrats to pujols. 

It is sort of wierd seeing pujols with such a low BA.  Next year he could be below a .300 hitter.  Id like to see him rack up the historic numbers tho.

APIAD wrote:

Me to! Congrats to pujols.

It is sort of wierd seeing pujols with such a low BA. Next year he could be below a .300 hitter. Id like to see him rack up the historic numbers tho.

MLBN had a segment on this yesterday. Harold Reynolds' theory is he had to sacrifice average for power and became a pull hitter once he got to the Angels because the parks in the AL West are so much more spacious than they are in the NL Central. 

artie_fufkin wrote:

APIAD wrote:

Me to! Congrats to pujols.

It is sort of wierd seeing pujols with such a low BA. Next year he could be below a .300 hitter. Id like to see him rack up the historic numbers tho.

MLBN had a segment on this yesterday. Harold Reynolds' theory is he had to sacrifice average for power and became a pull hitter once he got to the Angels because the parks in the AL West are so much more spacious than they are in the NL Central. 

Ummm, Houston and Texas are in the AL West and there were more HRs hit in Seattle last year than in any other ballpark.

Still, good for Albert getting to 600. Assuming he stays healthy, there's a good chance he gets his 3,000th hit and 2,000th RBI next season. The latter definitely puts him in some exclusive company.

"Ummm, Houston and Texas are in the AL West and there were more HRs hit in Seattle last year than in any other ballpark."

Yeah, I don't really ascribe to Reynolds' theory. Though I did do some research and it turns out that except for Texas, all the ballparks in the ALW are classified as "pitchers' parks" by Baseball Reference. The whole thing can be pretty subjective. ESPN had Turner Field ranked as a "pitchers' park" last year, but a lot of that had to do with the Braves' weak lineup.