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Madison's 12U softball team plays better defense than the Brewers.
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I think teams should bat the pitcher 4th, that way they have 5 other leading hitters before they get back to the top of the order.
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I like what diaz and hazelbaker jave brought to this team. They push for that extra base and seem to openly be playing like they have something to prove (which they do). That sort of keep your foot on the gas type attitude has been helpful.
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I like hrs and i hope the team hits some but damn this double and triple parade is fun.
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forsberg_us wrote:
Hey look, a gratuitous shot of Ballpark Village. Welcome to the 2016 regular season.
Holy fuck, did Molina get a 5 step jump?
Molina is on pace for a 45 steal season.
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These teams are bad (braves, brewers)
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APIAD wrote:
These teams are bad (braves, brewers)
It feels like we're playing against their September call-ups--in April
How do you try to sell this shit to your fans if you're the Brewers? They shouldn't draw a million fans.
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forsberg_us wrote:
APIAD wrote:
These teams are bad (braves, brewers)
It feels like we're playing against their September call-ups--in April
How do you try to sell this shit to your fans if you're the Brewers? They shouldn't draw a million fans.
Baseball has to do something about tanking. It isnt good for the game. It isnt good for the fans to watch their team tank and it really isnt that meaningful to beat a tanking team. I think you have a draft lottery. I think the nba takes the bottom 13 teams and draw for draft position? I think that would help teams resist the urge just to give up and field a pathetic team.
I will say beating bad teams is better then losing to them and hopwfully these slugfest get guys confident and going.
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APIAD wrote:
forsberg_us wrote:
APIAD wrote:
These teams are bad (braves, brewers)
It feels like we're playing against their September call-ups--in April
How do you try to sell this shit to your fans if you're the Brewers? They shouldn't draw a million fans.Baseball has to do something about tanking. It isnt good for the game. It isnt good for the fans to watch their team tank and it really isnt that meaningful to beat a tanking team. I think you have a draft lottery. I think the nba takes the bottom 13 teams and draw for draft position? I think that would help teams resist the urge just to give up and field a pathetic team.
I will say beating bad teams is better then losing to them and hopwfully these slugfest get guys confident and going.
There's rebuilding and there mismanagement. Teams like the Astros, Cubs and currently the Braves have rebuilt their teams by selling major league talent for prospects and by using the draft to add additional talent. Then you have teams like the Brewers that are just bad and really don't have any prospect of getting better, at least not anytime soon.
The thing with sports like the NBA or NFL is teams can improve immediately through the draft because those players step immediately into the league. In MLB, the players drafted go to the minors. If you draft a high school kid, they might be there 5 years, even if they're really good. Organizations have to be smart, and they have to be smart over time.
I don't follow the Brewers that close, but I bet if you went back and looked at the couple of years when they did well, you'll find trades where they traded prospects for someone at the deadline to try to get over the hump. If you win it all, you don't mind those trades so much, but when you don't, they come back to bite you.
I wouldn't waste my time or money on this crap if I lived in Milwaukee. This is terrible.
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I agree with most that post. I will say the high you get in the draft the better chance a team has of getting a player that is very close to mlb ready.
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My point is that if you tank and get a high draft pick like kris bryant, mike trout, bryce harper or stephen strasburg you have a player that is a year or two away from the majors and can make an immediate impact. It isnt a science but there has to be different between searching for competitive balance and tanking.
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The Brewers are the 2012 Astros. They only began their teardown last July and guys like Lucroy, Braun and Gennett are out the door before July.
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APIAD wrote:
These teams are bad (braves, brewers)
Wait til you see the Phillies.
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forsberg_us wrote:
See Grichuk--good things happen when the wood thing and the spherical white thing actual make contact with each other.
I thought not swinging until he walked was working for him.
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forsberg_us wrote:
Did Hazelbaker learn the catch and dive move from Edmonds.
I thought the exact same thing.
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APIAD wrote:
My point is that if you tank and get a high draft pick like kris bryant, mike trout, bryce harper or stephen strasburg you have a player that is a year or two away from the majors and can make an immediate impact. It isnt a science but there has to be different between searching for competitive balance and tanking.
I understand what you're saying, but Trout and Harper are exceptions. Very few high schoolers make it by age 19. And Trout wasn't a high pick, he was #25 overall. A lot of teams passed on him, including the Cardinals.
The baseball draft has so much nuance and strategy to it that the other sports don't have. In the NFL, a team may pass over a more talented player to fill need, but the draft is largely about talent. In MLB, teams pass over more talented players for signability reasons. Teams opt for high school versus college players (or vice versa).
Plus, in the MLB Draft, the players have more options. High school kids have the option of not signing and going to college. College underclassmen have the option of not signing and staying to graduate. None of that happens in the NFL or NBA.
I understand what you're saying about not rewarding a team that doesn't try, but at the same time there's a difference between long term strategy and mismanagement. In the last 2 years, the Braves have sold pretty much every player they had for prospects with an eye toward 2018. They'll be bad this year, but there's a strategy in place. Then you have teams like Milwaukee or Philadelphia that have pretty much gutted their farm system, not drafted well and spent money stupidly. They'll also be bad, but for a completely different reason.
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I hope the cardinals are not stuck in between rebuilding and attempting to be elite.
The mlb draft is a complicated mess. I still like the nba draft better then mlb or nfl. Losing should never be rewarded.
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APIAD wrote:
I hope the cardinals are not stuck in between rebuilding and attempting to be elite.
The mlb draft is a complicated mess. I still like the nba draft better then mlb or nfl. Losing should never be rewarded.
I agree. But then look at the NBA and you have a team like the 76er's that has openly told its fans they've been trying to lose for like the last 2 seasons. How is it possible for a professional team to go 10-70? Imagine if a baseball team only won 20 games in a season.
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At the risk of jinxing it, yesterday's lineup was probably the best baserunning team the Cardinals have put on the field since the glory days of the MV3. Not fastest, but the best. I think it's been since 2004 since I've seen a Cardinals team this good at taking the extra base.
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tkihshbt wrote:
At the risk of jinxing it, yesterday's lineup was probably the best baserunning team the Cardinals have put on the field since the glory days of the MV3. Not fastest, but the best. I think it's been since 2004 since I've seen a Cardinals team this good at taking the extra base.
Unless you saw the '85-'87 Cardinals, you ain't seen baserunning.
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The lack of a salary cap in baseball makes a huge difference. It's accurate to say the Cubs have drafted well, but they've also paid a premium for Lester and this off-season spent a ton of dough on Zobrist, Lackey and the douchebag who's now playing right field. In a salary cap league, you get one of those guys.
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tkihshbt wrote:
At the risk of jinxing it, yesterday's lineup was probably the best baserunning team the Cardinals have put on the field since the glory days of the MV3. Not fastest, but the best. I think it's been since 2004 since I've seen a Cardinals team this good at taking the extra base.
The merry go round was fun to watch even if the brew crew was playing horrible. I think and i hope that mentality of taking an extra base if you can will be contagious.
Idk who said it but comparing hazelbaker to borjous except hazelbaker can steal a base seems accurate.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
The lack of a salary cap in baseball makes a huge difference. It's accurate to say the Cubs have drafted well, but they've also paid a premium for Lester and this off-season spent a ton of dough on Zobrist, Lackey and the douchebag who's now playing right field. In a salary cap league, you get one of those guys.
The luxury tax is a salary cap of sorts. Im sure there would be other spending rules impossed other then total payroll, but the cubs are not far ahead of the cards in terms of payroll. Not yet anyway, theirs will inflate alot in the next few years i would assume. For conversation sake, what would you impose as the payroll limit?
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Unless the landscape changes profoundly, we'll never see a salary cap in baseball. The players' union will never go for it, and the players' union always beats the owners at the negotiating table.
It practically took an act of Congress for the players to agree to submit to tests which detect drugs that literally shrank their testicles. I can't imagine them even considering a policy that reduces the width of their wallets.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
Unless the landscape changes profoundly, we'll never see a salary cap in baseball. The players' union will never go for it, and the players' union always beats the owners at the negotiating table.
It practically took an act of Congress for the players to agree to submit to tests which detect drugs that literally shrank their testicles. I can't imagine them even considering a policy that reduces the width of their wallets.
Agreed but my point was that if they did sumbit to a salary cap it would have to be set pretty high. It would have to incorporate most the teams current payrolls. Most the league is sitting between 100-180. A cap of 180 wouldnt change life much