Mags wrote:

Ex-Card Descalso was 2 for 4 with a big triple last night for San Diego.

Braves left-fielder Matt Adams was 3 for 4 with his 4th and 5th homeruns last night.  Too bad the Cards couldn't have at least held on to him for defensive purposes in the outfield.

I guess it's because, as someone here pointed out, "he still can't hit."

Adams plays for the Nationals.  He was non-tendered by the Braves at the end of last season.

Mags wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Does Wisdom have a chance of being an every day player in the majors? It seems like with his power, someone should at least give him a shot..
 

Considering he was left exposed in the Rule 5 draft and no one took him, apparently no one thinks so.

Yes.  You half to remember that these aren't the same experts who realized that there were over 400 prospects better than Albert Pujols the year he was picked up in the draft.  Today's guys are lots smarter.

Baseball men are like most humans.  They'd rather be dead wrong but with lots of company rather than risk making a move that might draw lots of criticism from knowledgeable fans if it doesn't work out.  And they sure don't want to risk getting criticism by Whiskey Dan.
 

I think that's nonsense.  First, it assumes that in all MLB cities there are enough fans who care enough to fret about some guy on the team's bench.  You've got a half dozen or more teams that were fairly open before the season that they weren't really trying to win.  You think that a team like Cincinnati or the Royals couldn't plop Wisdom on the end of their bench for a season in which they don't care whether they win 50 games?  Of course they could--if they thought he might add some value down the road.  Hell, San Diego sat Allen Cordoba at the end of their bench last season, and he had never played higher than rookie ball.  You think anyone in San Diego cared that Allen Cordoba was wasting a spot on the bench of a team that won 71 games.  I doubt you'd find many Padre fans that even know who Allen Cordoba is.

We can argue whether Wisdom's skill set should have value, but the fact of the matter is that low average, low OBP, high strikeout, home run hitters are a dime a dozen and they aren't in great demand around the league.  Mike Moustakas posted better numbers in MLB than Wisdom did last season at AAA at the exact same position. Moustakas had to crawl back to KC with his tail between his legs and beg for a contract.  Logan Morrison, Lucas Duda, Curtis Granderson have each hit 30 or more HR in a season in the major leagues.  Morrison hit 38 last year.  Each signed 1 year contracts for less than the Cardinals are paying Brett Cecil.

Pedro Alvarez, Chris Carter, Adam Lind, Mike Napoli, Mark Reynolds have each hit 30 or more HR in a season.  Lind hit .303 with 14 HR in 267 AB last year. Napoli had 29 HR last year. Reynolds hit .267 with 30 HR and 97 RBI last year.  Alvarez, Carter, Lind and Napoli all signed minor league contracts.  Reynolds just signed a contract with the Nationals 2 weeks ago.

Wisdom is a former 1st round pick.  Do you really believe that if his skill set played at this level that Moz wouldn't have him on this team?

forsberg_us wrote:

Mags wrote:

Ex-Card Descalso was 2 for 4 with a big triple last night for San Diego.

Braves left-fielder Matt Adams was 3 for 4 with his 4th and 5th homeruns last night.  Too bad the Cards couldn't have at least held on to him for defensive purposes in the outfield.

I guess it's because, as someone here pointed out, "he still can't hit."

Adams plays for the Nationals.  He was non-tendered by the Braves at the end of last season.

I knew that.  Perhaps I should work for a major network.  I almost suggested that Harper's homer came because they were afraid to put him on in front of Adams.
 

forsberg_us wrote:

Mags wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Considering he was left exposed in the Rule 5 draft and no one took him, apparently no one thinks so.

Yes.  You half to remember that these aren't the same experts who realized that there were over 400 prospects better than Albert Pujols the year he was picked up in the draft.  Today's guys are lots smarter.

Baseball men are like most humans.  They'd rather be dead wrong but with lots of company rather than risk making a move that might draw lots of criticism from knowledgeable fans if it doesn't work out.  And they sure don't want to risk getting criticism by Whiskey Dan.
 

I think that's nonsense.  First, it assumes that in all MLB cities there are enough fans who care enough to fret about some guy on the team's bench.  You've got a half dozen or more teams that were fairly open before the season that they weren't really trying to win.  You think that a team like Cincinnati or the Royals couldn't plop Wisdom on the end of their bench for a season in which they don't care whether they win 50 games?  Of course they could--if they thought he might add some value down the road.  Hell, San Diego sat Allen Cordoba at the end of their bench last season, and he had never played higher than rookie ball.  You think anyone in San Diego cared that Allen Cordoba was wasting a spot on the bench of a team that won 71 games.  I doubt you'd find many Padre fans that even know who Allen Cordoba is.

We can argue whether Wisdom's skill set should have value, but the fact of the matter is that low average, low OBP, high strikeout, home run hitters are a dime a dozen and they aren't in great demand around the league.  Mike Moustakas posted better numbers in MLB than Wisdom did last season at AAA at the exact same position. Moustakas had to crawl back to KC with his tail between his legs and beg for a contract.  Logan Morrison, Lucas Duda, Curtis Granderson have each hit 30 or more HR in a season in the major leagues.  Morrison hit 38 last year.  Each signed 1 year contracts for less than the Cardinals are paying Brett Cecil.

Pedro Alvarez, Chris Carter, Adam Lind, Mike Napoli, Mark Reynolds have each hit 30 or more HR in a season.  Lind hit .303 with 14 HR in 267 AB last year. Napoli had 29 HR last year. Reynolds hit .267 with 30 HR and 97 RBI last year.  Alvarez, Carter, Lind and Napoli all signed minor league contracts.  Reynolds just signed a contract with the Nationals 2 weeks ago.

Wisdom is a former 1st round pick.  Do you really believe that if his skill set played at this level that Moz wouldn't have him on this team?

Did I say "half"?  Next thing yoiu know I'll be confusing  the Nationals with the Braves.
 

artie_fufkin wrote:

"Not to worry folks, Carpenter will be fine. We—the casual fan—just aren’t smart enough to see that he’s just been unlucky this season."

Edmonds, who has otherwise improved significantly as an analyst, spent most of the weekend in Pittsburgh saying the same thing, without the condescention.
I don't see it. I see a guy who is stubbornly trying to hit the ball into or over the shift other teams are using on him, and being even more adamant he has a greater knowledge of the strike zone than the umpires.

When did OBP guys like carp and fowler turn into guys who lacked the ablity to hit to all fields?  The only guy on the team that can spray the field is molina.

Isnt carps bad april and his approach related to it more of a management/coaching isssue and not a front office issues?

artie_fufkin wrote:

APIAD wrote:

Mags wrote:

Ex-Card Descalso was 2 for 4 with a big triple last night for San Diego.

Braves left-fielder Matt Adams was 3 for 4 with his 4th and 5th homeruns last night.  Too bad the Cards couldn't have at least held on to him for defensive purposes in the outfield.

I guess it's because, as someone here pointed out, "he still can't hit."

Bernie did a good run down of how ex card players are doing.

https://www.101sports.com/2018/05/01/updates-wild-man-lance-lynn-allen-craig-the-chihuahua-and-kozma-the-mud-hen/

"In losing 7-5 to Toronto on Tuesday, the Twins drooped to 0-5 in games started by Lynn this season ..."

I was talking the other day with a friend about the decline of standards in the journalism world, but all that is nothing in comparison to how much the Twins are "drooping" whenever Lynn is on the mound for them.

Speaking of journalism, I doubt if any of you guys ever even heard of Arthur Daley (not Hailey). Except of course Artie.  He was a N.Y Times sportswriter (in the last decade or two of his career).  He died around 1970.  He was syndicated in the Arkansas Gazette, which was my main source of news in the early 60's.  Even though he was a big-time New Yorker, he was very fair and I looked forward to every column.  He would have been my role model if I'd been able to write worth a damn.  One of the worst things about being in the Navy was being stationed where the newspapers didn't carry him.
I never hear anything about him and that's a damn shame.