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4/12/2011 10:02 am  #26


Re: Pujols on 60 Minutes

Max wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Max, I agree that technically the stats show 5 bad 9 game streaks. But the reality is that they actually were a bad 11 game streak and a bad 10 game streak.

Not all nine-game streaks are independent.  And now we have to recalculate everything as 10 game streaks batting .150.  The longer it goes on, the more 'unusual' it becomes. 

forsberg_us wrote:

We are now witnessing something that has happened twice in 5 years.

Well, three times in 5 years and 10 days. 

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You dont have to calculate something you can see.  I am connecting stats to something I have seen.  You are just bending number to support something you havent seen.  Pujols looks like shit.  That is a fact.

 

4/12/2011 11:59 am  #27


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I thought the same thing, Fors: his wife said he cried like a baby after being chosen 402nd.  The other thing that Simon claimed was that it rankles Pujols that he is not among the top 20 highest paid ballplayers.  And finally, there was the bit, related to the draft, don't get me upset.  I think it could well be the case that inside he is seething at the treatment he has received from the Cards.  I dunno if that would make his performance better or worse, but I think it's worth considering that he is truly pissed at DeWitt.

Regarding the line-up, this Cardinals team should be better than in recent years, surely better than last year when Pujols was fine.  Rasmus is on fire in the #2 hole.  He has Matt Holliday batting behind him and Lance Berkman behind him.  Then we have two young players who show great promise with the bat, Allan Craig and David Freese.  This team should put up a lot of points, and it's really just Albert who hasn't shown any flashes at all.

 

4/12/2011 12:00 pm  #28


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APRTW wrote:

Max wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Max, I agree that technically the stats show 5 bad 9 game streaks. But the reality is that they actually were a bad 11 game streak and a bad 10 game streak.

Not all nine-game streaks are independent.  And now we have to recalculate everything as 10 game streaks batting .150.  The longer it goes on, the more 'unusual' it becomes. 

forsberg_us wrote:

We are now witnessing something that has happened twice in 5 years.

Well, three times in 5 years and 10 days. 

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You dont have to calculate something you can see.  I am connecting stats to something I have seen.  You are just bending number to support something you havent seen.  Pujols looks like shit.  That is a fact.

I am not going to talk statistics with you for the next 48 hours. 

Last edited by Max (4/12/2011 12:00 pm)

 

4/12/2011 12:12 pm  #29


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The Yahoo blogger is so gleeful over the Cardinals' troubles so far that he can't even write a cogent lede paragraph:

St. Louis’ get exponentially worse when Albert Pujols(notes) is in a funk. Of the 211 players with at least 3.1 plate appearances per game, Pujols ranks 197th in batting average (.143), 192nd in on-base percentage (.225) and 189th in slugging percentage (.229). It was supposed to get better after his 0-for-5-with-three-double-plays opening day. It hasn’t.

And, accordingly, the Cardinals are 3-6, Tony La Russa is getting mad that people dare question his team’s awful start, Colby Rasmus(notes) is losing games by dropping fly balls and, with Adam Wainwright(notes) out for the year and Ryan Franklin(notes) a closer in title only and Ryan Theriot(notes) trying to commit an error a game, it’s fair to ask how all of this affects Pujols and his future. Tough to tell now. The only certainty of this early funk: He looked a lot better Sunday on “60 Minutes† than he has the first 10 days swinging the bat, though …

 

4/12/2011 12:19 pm  #30


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"But speaking of reading swings, I happened to be watching as Milton Bradley connected last night.  He was swinging the bat like Barry Bonds in 2001, where if the pitcher got it near the heart of the plate it was going out.  It was just one at bat, but if he keeps that up, and if he has truly turned over a new leaf, he'll be dangerous this year."

He won't keep it up. People have sung this song praising Milton before. He'll blow up at a fan or someone in the media, or blow out his knee trying to attack an umpire, and then call anyone a racist if they don't appreciate his massive skills. There's a reason Milton Bradley is on his eighth team, and it's because of Milton Bradley.

 

4/12/2011 12:51 pm  #31


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"There's a reason Milton Bradley is on his eighth team, and it's because of Milton Bradley."

His mea culpa last season sounded either genuine, or else crafted by a talented PR agent . . . and I haven't heard a peep from him since.

 

4/12/2011 2:22 pm  #32


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Max wrote:

"There's a reason Milton Bradley is on his eighth team, and it's because of Milton Bradley."

His mea culpa last season sounded either genuine, or else crafted by a talented PR agent . . . and I haven't heard a peep from him since.

The shame of it is he's a bright guy with immense talent ... and a horrible temper and a massive tendency toward martyrdom.
There's always a mea culpa, and it probably is genuine, and then he plays well for awhile. Then the cycle starts all over again, and he ends up in a more far flung location than he did before. I don't know where he goes after the next one, because Seattle right now is the Siberia of the American League.
Rinse, lather, repeat ...

 

4/12/2011 8:50 pm  #33


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Speaking of head cases, how much of a problem must Nyjer Morgan be if a major league manager actually decided that Rick Ankiel was a better option?

 

4/13/2011 3:07 am  #34


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forsberg_us wrote:

Speaking of head cases, how much of a problem must Nyjer Morgan be if a major league manager actually decided that Rick Ankiel was a better option?

ankiel will run into the wall to make a catch.

 

4/13/2011 3:08 am  #35


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artie_fufkin wrote:

Max wrote:

"There's a reason Milton Bradley is on his eighth team, and it's because of Milton Bradley."

His mea culpa last season sounded either genuine, or else crafted by a talented PR agent . . . and I haven't heard a peep from him since.

The shame of it is he's a bright guy with immense talent ... and a horrible temper and a massive tendency toward martyrdom.
There's always a mea culpa, and it probably is genuine, and then he plays well for awhile. Then the cycle starts all over again, and he ends up in a more far flung location than he did before. I don't know where he goes after the next one, because Seattle right now is the Siberia of the American League.
Rinse, lather, repeat ...

we'll see.  sometimes people change.  i'm pulling for the guy.

 

4/13/2011 8:57 am  #36


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"we'll see.  sometimes people change.  i'm pulling for the guy."

Maybe he and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar can open their own public relations firm. They can call it "Surly and Sour."

 

4/13/2011 3:37 pm  #37


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You and Kareem, again.  Make your peace with the guy, already.

 

4/13/2011 3:57 pm  #38


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Max wrote:

You and Kareem, again.  Make your peace with the guy, already.

Recent revisionist history to the contrary, I can say with a high degree of certainty that a high percentage of people outside of Greater Los Angeles who paid attention to basketball in the '70s and '80s had a negative opinion of Little Baby Kareem Puff.

 

4/14/2011 9:40 am  #40


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48 hours are up (almost)

Here's something weird, over the past 2 games Pujols is batting .625 with a .750 OBP.  I wonder if that indicates that he is fired up over his contract situation and is going to have an amazing year.

 

5/09/2011 4:32 pm  #41


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Max wrote:

But speaking of reading swings, I happened to be watching as Milton Bradley connected last night.  He was swinging the bat like Barry Bonds in 2001, where if the pitcher got it near the heart of the plate it was going out.  It was just one at bat, but if he keeps that up, and if he has truly turned over a new leaf, he'll be dangerous this year.

Does the "D" in "DFA" stand for dangerous?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6515029

 

5/09/2011 4:34 pm  #42


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Max wrote:

"There's a reason Milton Bradley is on his eighth team, and it's because of Milton Bradley."

His mea culpa last season sounded either genuine, or else crafted by a talented PR agent . . . and I haven't heard a peep from him since.

"The 33-year-old Bradley hit .218 with two homers and 13 RBIs in 28 games. He was suspended for one game last week for bumping an umpire, ejected Friday for arguing a called third strike and booed by home fans over the weekend for the perception he was dogging it on defense."

 

5/09/2011 5:10 pm  #43


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well, there you go.  don't make long range predictions from watching a single game.  one of those two homers looked really sweet. 

too bad for MO and the mariners.  i suppose the next we hear of the guy he'll be caught up in some violent crime of passion.

on the same subject, i'd say that now it's looking likely that pujols is going through more than just a slow start, but who knows what it is.

 

5/09/2011 5:11 pm  #44


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If Bradly hits then he is happy.  However if he doesnt he is a pain in the ass.

 

5/09/2011 8:19 pm  #45


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"It was not a particular incident," Zduriencik said. "It's just an issue with our evaluations of where we are and where we are going, and our estimates were that he did not fit. That's why the decision was made."

Asked if Bradley had a negative impact on the clubhouse, Zduriencik said: "That's hard to say. I don't know that. I think it gets down more to what we're trying to accomplish and where we're headed."

I would have been far more impressed with this guy if he had said: "Ultimately, it comes down to performance. If Milton is hitting .300, he needs anger management classes. If he's hitting .200, he's a psycho."

 

5/09/2011 8:25 pm  #46


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artie_fufkin wrote:

"It was not a particular incident," Zduriencik said. "It's just an issue with our evaluations of where we are and where we are going, and our estimates were that he did not fit. That's why the decision was made."

Asked if Bradley had a negative impact on the clubhouse, Zduriencik said: "That's hard to say. I don't know that. I think it gets down more to what we're trying to accomplish and where we're headed."

I would have been far more impressed with this guy if he had said: "Ultimately, it comes down to performance. If Milton is hitting .300, he needs anger management classes. If he's hitting .200, he's a psycho."

That is true of most.  If Brendan Ryan would have hit .280 last year he would still be on the team and if Rasmus would have hit .190 last year he wouldnt.

 

5/09/2011 9:02 pm  #47


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Max wrote:

APRTW wrote:

2001 July .241
2006 June .256
2007 April .250
2010 July  .267

Are Pujols' worst months of his career.  Say Pujols finishes the month with 90 at bats.  That is 55 more then he has right now.  He would have to hit for a .309 average, having 17 hits just to not have the worst month of his career.  I am not saying Pujols suddenly sucks but he is playing suckier then he ever has.  I dont think it is just luck that this contract BS just happens to be taking place.   

22hits 90 at bats

17/55

9 games is a far cry from a month.

It's like flipping a coin 9 times and getting all heads versus flipping it 27 times and getting all heads.  If you have lots and lots of iterations, you should get 9 heads in a row every 500 flips, or so.  27 heads in a row is pretty much beyond what could ever happen in the lifetime of anybody flipping coins.

On top of that, you are only examining a very limited subset of the number of ways you could look at his performance over a 30-31 day period.  If you examined every conceivable increment of 30-31 consecutive days you would be overwhelmingly likely to find worse performances.

I guess you can flip a coin 27 times and get all heads.  Pujols hit .245 last month with only one double, he struck out more then he walked and had 9 GIDP.  His 7 HRs and 18 RBIs are respectible but I think most would agree that was the worst month of Pujols' career or at least since his rookie year.

 

5/09/2011 9:02 pm  #48


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"That is true of most.  If Brendan Ryan would have hit .280 last year he would still be on the team and if Rasmus would have hit .190 last year he wouldnt."

Indeed, truer words were rarely said.

. . . and speaking of Pujols, Strauss and a follow up from Bernie offer interesting takes on whether this is still just a rut, or indicates something more:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_e1087b8f-bf56-57f6-a6a5-e785cf4baead.html

For Bernie, it's after the very relevant section La Russa's eye (which does look a bit like shingles to me; had it once, to get it on your eye is almost inconceivable to me . . . itchy, painful, and very irritating.  leaves scars, too).

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/article_9c50d13a-7a4b-11e0-86ad-0019bb30f31a.html

 

5/09/2011 9:05 pm  #49


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I read both Strauss and Bernies pieces and what stuck out to me was Pujols' troubles with ball on the outside.  Without doing to much research I would think that those are the balls he is rolling over on and causing alot of grounders and GIDP.  If he would go the other way with outside pitches more he might fix his funk.

 

5/09/2011 9:51 pm  #50


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APRTW wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

"It was not a particular incident," Zduriencik said. "It's just an issue with our evaluations of where we are and where we are going, and our estimates were that he did not fit. That's why the decision was made."

Asked if Bradley had a negative impact on the clubhouse, Zduriencik said: "That's hard to say. I don't know that. I think it gets down more to what we're trying to accomplish and where we're headed."

I would have been far more impressed with this guy if he had said: "Ultimately, it comes down to performance. If Milton is hitting .300, he needs anger management classes. If he's hitting .200, he's a psycho."

That is true of most.  If Brendan Ryan would have hit .280 last year he would still be on the team and if Rasmus would have hit .190 last year he wouldnt.

Absolutely. It's just you're probably less apt to give the benefit of the doubt to a guy who's gone into the stands to confront fans at Dodger Stadium whilst wearing a Dodgers' uniform.

 

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