Max wrote:

After what happened in the Dodgers' parking lot I think it's time MLB became way more proactive about promoting good sportsmanship among fans of opposing teams.  In all seriousness I think that the Dodgers should sponsor a "Giants Day", sell discounted tickets in S.F. and encourage Giants fans to come to Dodger stadium and cheer their team on. Metal detectors at the gates and extra police might not be a bad idea, but seriously, it's time truth and reconciliation.

Good sentiment, but that's going to be a tough sell. How do you promote a one of the three most interesting rivalries in the game at the same time you're telling people to chill out because it's just a baseball game? Having lived there, you're undoubtedly much more away than I am that the Giants/Dodgers rivalry isn't just about baseball.
There's no excuse for what happened at Dodger Stadium, but I wouldn't wear a Giants' cap there. Especially in the bleachers. It's like Dodge City out there.

"How do Cardinals and Cubs get away with it?"

Reference my post from a few days ago about Midwesterners being nicer people.
I've posted this a few times before, but one of my memories of the '04 World Series was a reporter from a Boston TV station standing outside Busch Stadium after Game 4 practically taunting Cardinals' fans. When he stuck a microphone in front of some poor woman's face, she replied "At least it wasn't the Yankees" and then laughed. That woman doesn't exist where I live. Or at least she doesn't attend baseball games at Fenway Park.

Last edited by artie_fufkin (7/11/2011 12:21 pm)

St. Louis has one of the highest violent crime rates in the country, but that doesn't mean said criminals attend the ball games.

"Major sports always want to portray themselves as these beneficial organizations that promote community and good citizenship.  Well, MLB could be proactive and begin the process of social change our country needs to move away from thuggery."

Increased ticket and beer prices help.

Seriously.  I remember going to Blues games as a kid.  Back then, with the money I made working a part-time job, I could get tickets to any game I wanted to go to, including the playoffs, sitting within a row or two from the ice.  Back then, a Blues/Blackhawks game on the weekend usually included at least a half dozen fights in the stands (probably about the same on the ice).  Now the hooligans who would otherwise be causing those fights have a much more difficult time affording the ticket, and even if they can afford the ticket, it's much more financially difficult to get as drunk on $9 beers.

tkihshbt wrote:

Yeah, and I don't think St. Louis' violent criminals even pay attention to baseball, much less posses a desire to go down to Busch and start shit. They'd rather take the Metrolink to the Galleria and start fights there.

One of the the last places I would pick to start a fight if I was a shit bag is in the middle of 100s of half drunk cornfed midwetern men.

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APRTW wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

Yeah, and I don't think St. Louis' violent criminals even pay attention to baseball, much less posses a desire to go down to Busch and start shit. They'd rather take the Metrolink to the Galleria and start fights there.

One of the the last places I would pick to start a fight if I was a shit bag is in the middle of 100s of half drunk cornfed midwetern men.

. . . especially in Oklahoma.

My brother-in-law, a native Oklahoman, told a story: his wife (my wife's sister) was in D.C..  His wife had very little experience in America at that point.  She went into a mall, and some big dude started hassling her, trying to block her progress with arms outstretched almost like a defender in the NBA.  She didn't know what the fuck was going on, or what to do, and nobody in the mall did anything to help her.  So, my brother-in-law's comment was, "if he pulled that stunt in Oklahoma, they'd shoot him.  Someone in the mall would just pull out a gun and shoot him."

I would have asked for a payday but that is just me. 

If I was the man and the Yankees I wouldnt treat these tickets as gifts.  I would say that these seats are going to reamin open.  If you sit in them that is up to you.  Honestly if the Yankees allow someone to sit in there park for free that is there right.  They sell a service and for this due it happend to be free.

Max wrote:

APRTW wrote:

I would have asked for a payday but that is just me.

me, too.  but i would have asked for the payday for all those mcgwire homers, too.  a million bucks cold go a long way in my household.

IDK if I could ask for a million but it wouldnt kill Jetter to give up 10K (after taxes of course).

Jetter comes across as classy and humble because even though he refused to go the all star game and change his role with the team, he doesnt talk about it.  In New York that is enough to make people believe that you are a good guy.

artie_fufkin wrote:

The fans voted him in. Even if he wasn't going to play, he ought to have at least showed up, been introduced and doffed his hat to acknowledge that.

apparently he had a hot date in Florida with his girlfriend. 

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