APRTW wrote:

Max wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

If a home plate collision offends you that much, there's always women's tennis. Enjoy.

If I did that some move to someone on the street, I assume I could be arrested, found guilty and sent to jail.  Just because baseball says it's legal, doesn't make it OK in my eyes.

So you are comparing shoulder blocking an unknowing man walking down the street to two people agreeing to play a game that they know can involve contact?  One that they get paid well to play?  If I threw a baseball at a random guys head who is walking down the street I would also be taken to jail.  This may be your worst attempt to make a point yet.

it's not Ok to throw at a guy's head in baseball, either.

in fact, i seem to recall there was a case in baseball where a player was charged with assault.  did i make that up or does anyone else remember it?

APRTW wrote:

Baseball's unwritten system for checks and balances is interesting and proven over time to be effective.  The players and managers see this as a clean hit.  No retaliation we be had.  However if Posey would have allowed a sliding lane the other players would have saw it as dirty and there would be retailation.  If that was the case then Cousins would be puttting his own teammates in harms way.  Many have voiced the opinion that throwing at hitters in retaliation is unsafe and may cause injuries.  I think it is the other way around.  It makes everyone play the game the right way and likely reduces injuries.


ESPN reported that Cousins was in tears when asked about the hit and if you saw the video the first thing he did was try and help Posey.  He wasnt trying to hurt the guy.

i will say that when i first saw the video i thought that posey was out in front of the basepath, not in it.  after seeing it a few times, i realize he blocked the path with his left leg--not a very smart move.  when i watch the video, i see cousins veering out of the basepath, seemingly aiming his body at posey's head.  that's probably not quite right either, as the collision seems to be with posey's shoulder. 

in the final analysis, physical contact and intent to injure is the object of some sports, notably boxing.  that's not the case in baseball.  there's almost no reason for players to ever touch each other, except on, say, a tag.  so, given the object of baseball, which is a finesse sport, i would prefer to see the 'hard-nosed' parts removed.   they're not necessary to the game, and certainly not to my enjoyment of it.

FUCKING LARUSSA!

All I ever wanted to do was to stake out an unpopular position and then argue it like a pissant without ever supporting what I said or offering an alternative, and what does La Russa do?  He goes out and gives a public interview stating pretty much the same things I did a day or two before.  He even goes so far as to say Cardinal runners are instructed NOT to collide with the catcher in an attempt to dislodge the ball, in order to avoid injury to both catcher and runner.  "So, I would be in favor of discussing that rule where the catcher always gives the runner something to slide to. And you teach the baserunner - I don't want any of our baserunners running into the catcher . . . . It's not worth the consequences of you getting busted up. . . . If you beat the throw to the plate, you're safe. If the ball beats you you're out. That's what I mean. You can't go out there to collide with the catcher."

God DAMMIT what an asshole!

La Russa would like to discuss rule change to protect catchers, runners
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/87a48f7c-88b7-11e0-b172-001a4bcf6878.html

Last edited by Max (5/28/2011 8:00 pm)