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Cards extend Carp, $21 M for 2 years
The details look pretty good, but I think the big story is the contrast with the past two seasons, when the team seemed reluctant to do anything until Pujols had been addressed. Now they seem to be positively hurrying to spend money with Pujols still headed toward free agency.
While my heart tells me this is good, and they are only doing this because they know what they will need to spend, my brain tells me this is bad and they not only think that resigning Pujols is unlikely, they are starting (or have been since Jocketty was fired) lining up the excuses intended to build a fire wall around the ownership group of DeWitt.
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Re: Cards extend Carp, $21 M for 2 years
I don't think it's as complicated as you're making it. They have to know how much payroll they have and get as much uncertainty out of the way before they do any deal with Pujols. It would be pretty stupid if they went into the offseason focusing on just Pujols when Carpenter is still one of the most important pieces.
Also, we owe a big thank you to Carpenter, who could have easily gotten a few extra million had he went to free agency.
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Re: Cards extend Carp, $21 M for 2 years
Good move by the Cards. 10 million a year is right at what I would have valued Carp at.
I think it helps to do thing early in respect to the Pujols situation. If Pujols drags his feet this offseason and the Cards dont continue to make moves they waste an offseason. Tieing up loose ends now frees up time to deal with Pujols.
The front office gets another shot at what the 2011 rotation could have been. As an outside chance maybe they move Loshe or Westbrook.
Wainwright
Carp
Garcia
Loshe
Westbrook
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Re: Cards extend Carp, $21 M for 2 years
"we owe a big thank you to Carpenter, who could have easily gotten a few extra million had he went to free agency"
I was thinking the other way, figuring Carp figures he owes the Cardinals for paying him $13 million for 15 innings in 2007-08.
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Re: Cards extend Carp, $21 M for 2 years
I think there are alot of reason Carp stayed. Th repect he gets from Cardinals fans and his teammates is pretty high on the list.
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Re: Cards extend Carp, $21 M for 2 years
artie_fufkin wrote:
"we owe a big thank you to Carpenter, who could have easily gotten a few extra million had he went to free agency"
I was thinking the other way, figuring Carp figures he owes the Cardinals for paying him $13 million for 15 innings in 2007-08.
Whoops, I had forgotten all about that.
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Normally guys dont give discounts for being overpaid in the past. One thing about Carp is that he comes acrossed as valueing the game more then money.
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Normally guys dont give discounts for being overpaid in the past. One thing about Carp is that he comes acrossed as valueing the game more then money.
Absolutely. I think he's the type of guy who would appreciate loyalty and reciprocate.