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9/18/2011 5:39 pm  #1


9/19 (Sulawesi time) game crap

The Mets did their job.

 

9/18/2011 8:15 pm  #2


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Beginning Tuesday, the Mets need to revert to sucking.

 

9/18/2011 8:29 pm  #3


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Pujols did his job. 

For some reason the televised game here is Florida and Washington.

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9/18/2011 8:33 pm  #4


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Craig did his job! 

Even if Tony tried to keep him from doing it.

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9/18/2011 8:33 pm  #5


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Craig doesn't get the bunt down and then goes yard. Great managing.

 

9/18/2011 8:52 pm  #6


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Why is Jay batting 8th and Theriot batting 1st???

Is it some weird quirk of the match-ups on Tony's little index cards?

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9/18/2011 9:03 pm  #7


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I am more interested in the Sunday night NFL game.  The Cardinals need to stop blowing games like they did last night to have a chance.  They are playing to gain what they lost night. 

I think Ill have another beer, take a nap and hopefully wake up with 5 minutes to go in the 4th.

 

9/18/2011 9:04 pm  #8


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Carp's doing his job.  That K to end the 7th was a little classroom lecture from professor to new student about proper classroom decorum.

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9/18/2011 9:06 pm  #9


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"Now if I want you to take a strike with a feeble check swing and a stupid look on your face, I'll throw a pitch like this . . . "

"When I strike you out, it will be with a pitch like this . . . .  Class dismissed."

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9/18/2011 9:09 pm  #10


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Now why the hell didn't they bunt Craig?!?

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9/18/2011 9:11 pm  #11


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Allen Craig has to be a regular player next season.

 

9/18/2011 9:12 pm  #12


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Max wrote:

Why is Jay batting 8th and Theriot batting 1st???

Is it some weird quirk of the match-ups on Tony's little index cards?

Lefty on the hill.

 

9/18/2011 9:19 pm  #13


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artie_fufkin wrote:

Allen Craig has to be a regular player next season.

I like the idea of having Berkman on the 2012 roster.  Lets face it, he is the only reason we are still following the Cardinals today.  As for Craig, I agree.  He has show enough to justify regular playing time.  However if Berkman comes back he doesnt get in the everday lineup.  Another thing with depending on Craig is that he is injury prone.  One way to get him in the lineup is to move him to second base but we have all seen the risk involved.

 

9/18/2011 9:21 pm  #14


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"Lets face it, he is the only reason we are still following the Cardinals today."

There's a Lance Berkman Cult out there?

 

9/18/2011 9:28 pm  #15


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APRTW wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Allen Craig has to be a regular player next season.

I like the idea of having Berkman on the 2012 roster.  Lets face it, he is the only reason we are still following the Cardinals today.  As for Craig, I agree.  He has show enough to justify regular playing time.  However if Berkman comes back he doesnt get in the everday lineup.  Another thing with depending on Craig is that he is injury prone.  One way to get him in the lineup is to move him to second base but we have all seen the risk involved.

Again, back to the guys in the booth: I think they have smelled out a likely scenario, where the Cards sign Berkman to play first, figuring Pujols walks, in which case Criag gets right field.

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9/18/2011 9:39 pm  #16


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OK, all Lohse has to do is beat Halladay tomorrow night.

 

9/18/2011 9:39 pm  #17


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10 games to play, 3.5 games back.  Do-able.

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9/18/2011 10:06 pm  #18


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artie_fufkin wrote:

"Lets face it, he is the only reason we are still following the Cardinals today."

There's a Lance Berkman Cult out there?

I am a big fan but that wasnt my point.  If the Cardinals dont take a chance on Berkman and he doesnt return to form this team would have been out of it months ago.

 

9/18/2011 10:07 pm  #19


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artie_fufkin wrote:

OK, all Lohse has to do is beat Halladay tomorrow night.

I could also poop a 5lb gold turd and pay for my kids college.

 

9/18/2011 10:09 pm  #20


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Max wrote:

APRTW wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Allen Craig has to be a regular player next season.

I like the idea of having Berkman on the 2012 roster.  Lets face it, he is the only reason we are still following the Cardinals today.  As for Craig, I agree.  He has show enough to justify regular playing time.  However if Berkman comes back he doesnt get in the everday lineup.  Another thing with depending on Craig is that he is injury prone.  One way to get him in the lineup is to move him to second base but we have all seen the risk involved.

Again, back to the guys in the booth: I think they have smelled out a likely scenario, where the Cards sign Berkman to play first, figuring Pujols walks, in which case Criag gets right field.

The people in the booth are  not any smarter then you or me.  I wouldnt take their opinion over any of ours.  I think Pujols values the meaning of returning to the Cardinals.

 

9/18/2011 10:58 pm  #21


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APRTW wrote:

The people in the booth are  not any smarter then you or me.  I wouldnt take their opinion over any of ours.

I think they are nearly as smart as me, and we are a lot smarter than you . . . apparently. 

APRTW wrote:

I think Pujols values the meaning of returning to the Cardinals.

I think he does, too.  But I also think he sees that the DeWitt group has played a very risky game of chicken with him, daring him to continue performing at the level he has, not get injured, and then go try the free agency market if he likes it.  Well, he has done just that, and the DeWitt group loses this game of chicken: he has continued to perform, has fought through any injuries, and now he is going to see some HUGE offers come his way.

I see this as very similar to the Cliff Lee negotiation, where he gets a few monster offers and then takes these to his favored team and says, "what are you gonna counter with?"  But the difference will be that the DeWitt group will fail to make a good enough offer, going back to the $22 m/ year for 7 years, or whatever it was, and Pujols will walk.  At this point, I am guessing he winds up with CWS, and La Russa does, too.

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9/18/2011 11:07 pm  #22


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APRTW wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

OK, all Lohse has to do is beat Halladay tomorrow night.

I could also poop a 5lb gold turd and pay for my kids college.

and yet, Lohse is still within .03 points of Garcia for best ERA among the starters and he has only given up more than 3 runs once since July 19.  He doesn't suck, and he gives us a chance to win.  The problem is that he hasn't been reliably going deep into games, so it's a good thing the bullpen got a rest today.

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9/19/2011 7:26 am  #23


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If the Cardinals were to play 10 games against Halladay, I doubt they win 2, but there's always the possibility that this might be that magic 1.

 

9/19/2011 7:37 am  #24


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Max wrote:

I see this as very similar to the Cliff Lee negotiation, where he gets a few monster offers and then takes these to his favored team and says, "what are you gonna counter with?"  But the difference will be that the DeWitt group will fail to make a good enough offer, going back to the $22 m/ year for 7 years, or whatever it was, and Pujols will walk.  At this point, I am guessing he winds up with CWS, and La Russa does, too.

Proof that you value what the media says over what has actually happend.  Actually I dont think the media even sides with you.  Most of what I have heard is that the talking heads predict his return to the Cardinals.  We can debate over the odds forever and we still wont know. I do know that Cardinals have said they want Pujols to be a Cardinals for life.  That Pujols has said the same thing numerous times and that the Cardinals have done a really good job of resigning players.  I think this gets worked out.

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9/19/2011 7:42 am  #25


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alz wrote:

If the Cardinals were to play 10 games against Halladay, I doubt they win 2, but there's always the possibility that this might be that magic 1.

They have faced him 3 times.  He has won 2 and had one no decision.

 

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