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10/11/2011 8:14 pm  #101


Re: NLCS Game 2

Max wrote:

Which one of us is Bernie?

Maybe Fors is Bernie?

* May I be completely grumpy for a moment? Thanks ... enough with the squirrel nonsense. This is the NLCS. These are important games. The World Series is on the line. The Cardinals are coming home for three consecutive home games. We don't need gimmicks. We don't need people trying to cash in on squirrel junk. The attention should be on the players, the competition, the pressure of high-stakes baseball. This isn't some half-wit baseball town. This is one of the most respected baseball towns in the history of the game. We don't need some manufactured squirrel hype to enjoy the LCS baseball story. Players like Freese (just to mention one of many) ought to be getting the attention.
To the happy-talk St. Louis TV and radio people, and to the Post-Dispatch as well: We've had our fun. The 15 minutes has expired. I beg you to find another cute story. Please end this now. It's embarrassing. Thank you. If the fans want to carry on with the squirrel, well, I'm not in charge. Do as you wish. I just needed to vent. Thank you.


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10/11/2011 9:52 pm  #102


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Max wrote:

alz wrote:

She replied with "We don't have to spell it that way, we could use 'Dartanyan'."

Is your wife from the rural midwest /border state region?

A little town called Breese Illinois, where you can't see much besides corn and cows, and it smells like pigshit all summer long. As sad as that may sound to you, I married her.

 

10/12/2011 4:05 am  #103


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Hey c'mon, maybe you weren't around in the old old days, but my last girlfriend before traveling off to indonesia all those years ago was from olney, home of the white squirrels.  (and fwiw, i think mags's wife was also from olney).  my mom's whole family is/was from that area, stretching from Vincennes/Lawrenceville at one end to Mounds/Mounds City on the other, with relatives dotting every other little town down there.  I spend a lot of time down there when i was a kid, with the big thrill being a trip to the rock candy shop in Sumner.

The reason I mentioned it was because some people think it's an African American thing, to go making up novel spellings of names, but my experience is that it's actually a rural midwest/border state thing, and maybe that's where the AA's got it.  And it works both ways, too: novel spellings at times, and novel pronunciations with traditional spellings at other times.  My mom told me about growing up with a boy named "Reen", only his mom spelled it spelled it all funny on his birth certificate, R-E-N-E.  And the story went on that he got to the army and they called out "Re-NAY" but with the correct last name.  The guy had an awkward moment with the drill sergeant, turned sort of rad faced, and then had an a-ha moment about 'small town boy goes to the army and learns about the big wide world.'

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10/12/2011 7:45 am  #104


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The guy had an awkward moment with the drill sergeant

I don't know how many of you are prior service, I was in the Air Force from 93-97. I can easily visualize this happening. They took us off the bus at about 3:00 AM, did the "drop your bag" drill where they wanted to hear one bag drop. After about 25 minutes of that bullshit, they brought us inside, and this mean ass little Senior Airman TI (SrA Carr, I'll never forget the TI's names) glares us all down and says, "I need to ask you, do any of you 'veterans' have a problem with me cussing?!?!" Of course nobody says a word, and he follows with "Good, so from now until your last fucking day in this outfit, I will fucking say any shit that I goddamned please!"

This was followed by a 6 1/2 week vacation of us cheerfully imagining different ways we could murder that little hateful prick. Oddly enough however, once you understood the rules and respect of being in the military to a point where you can function properly, the TI's magically morph into real teachers, and a lot less on the ball-busting pricks.

 

10/12/2011 8:18 am  #105


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alz wrote:

Max wrote:

alz wrote:

She replied with "We don't have to spell it that way, we could use 'Dartanyan'."

Is your wife from the rural midwest /border state region?

A little town called Breese Illinois, where you can't see much besides corn and cows, and it smells like pigshit all summer long. As sad as that may sound to you, I married her.

Breese?  Breese is a preppy little town compared to the rest of rural Illinois.  They have some soda that looks like urine that they harp about.

 

10/12/2011 8:20 am  #106


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Max, I live 10 mintunes from Onley.  It is a shit hole town these days.

 

10/12/2011 8:35 am  #107


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"May I be completely grumpy for a moment? Thanks ... enough with the squirrel nonsense."

Bernie's being a little too vitriolic, but I blanched a little bit after Game 2 when I saw a fan holding a sign with some reference to the squirrel.

 

10/12/2011 8:41 am  #108


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"My mom told me about growing up with a boy named "Reen", only his mom spelled it spelled it all funny on his birth certificate, R-E-N-E."

The custom is one "e" for a guy, and two for a chick. My wife has a second cousin who spells her name "Renee," but pronounces it "Ree-nee," and goes apoplectic when it's mispronounced. I solved that problem by avoiding her as much as possible.
I also have a guy friend named Rene, and people constantly spell his name with the female version. The irony is he's about 6-5 with LeBron James' physique. He's about as unfeminine a person as I've ever known.

 

10/12/2011 11:25 am  #109


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"funny" should have been in quotation marks.  yes, rene is the normal spelling, but I was trying to adopt the small town southern illinois mentality in that post.  The longer version of the story is that the boys mom had read the name in bool, and thought "Reen", spelled Rene, was a splendid name for a boy . . . never knowing of course the standard pronunciation.

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10/12/2011 11:33 am  #110


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APRTW wrote:

Max, I live 10 mintunes from Onley.

Yes, I recall that.  And I mean to make it back that way one of these days.  I have family buried in Vincennes.

APRTW wrote:

It is a shit hole town these days.

It used to have a very attractive little square, so I'm not quite sure what you mean.  In the old days, all those towns were shit hole little towns if you were looking for something other than clean, tidy little midwestern villages built around a square with an IGA and a Ben Franklin.

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10/12/2011 11:55 am  #111


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Max wrote:

APRTW wrote:

It is a shit hole town these days.

It used to have a very attractive little square, so I'm not quite sure what you mean.  In the old days, all those towns were shit hole little towns if you were looking for something other than clean, tidy little midwestern villages built around a square with an IGA and a Ben Franklin.

Richland county isnt bad but there isnt much nice housing in Olney anymore.  The city is pretty run down and they have alot of trashy people, drugs and such.  It has went down hill alot in the last 10 years.

 

10/12/2011 12:23 pm  #112


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There's this whole thing that began when I was out of the country and which I have not seen first hand yet, but rural towns getting run down, partly as an effect of methamphetamine and other drugs like that.  I've had people who live in areas, and have seen it first hand, of vast swaths of rural America become sort of like . . . 'cornfield ghettos'.

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10/12/2011 2:21 pm  #113


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It isnt the meth.  It is just the economy and unemployment.  When money is short people dont maintain their homes like they would if things were better.  Things get to looking run down and then home owners that maintain their property are run out of town because they dont want to live nexted to a dump.  They have to sell their house for less then it is worth and someone buys it who doesnt maintain it as well as they did.  Before you know it the whole block is run down.

 

10/12/2011 6:02 pm  #114


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There's a book called "What's the Matter with Kansas".  I haven't read it, but it's famous for outlining the bleak facts that vast swaths of rural American vote ardently for politicians and policies that are not in their economic interests. 

Sorry to hear that things have gone down.  That whole drive along Route 50, from Lawrenceville to Effingham used to be through very pleasant farming towns.

[It's funny, but I only just now realized that one could twist it into F-ingham!]

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10/12/2011 6:08 pm  #115


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In the old old days, we used to take 57 to Effingham, then down to Olney and across to Lawrenceville.  Then, when Nixon dropped the speed limit to 55 on the interstates, we used Route 1 from Watseka, down through Danville and all.  Eventually, we discovered Indiana 41 just across the border.  Not sure if that was always there and we were just too ignorant to know, or if there were big improvements back in the late 70's / early 80's that made that the option of first.  All of those routes showed how nice the vast swaths of America that coasters derisively call "fly over country" are.

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10/12/2011 6:24 pm  #116


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Max wrote:

There's a book called "What's the Matter with Kansas".  I haven't read it, but it's famous for outlining the bleak facts that vast swaths of rural American vote ardently for politicians and policies that are not in their economic interests. 

Sorry to hear that things have gone down.  That whole drive along Route 50, from Lawrenceville to Effingham used to be through very pleasant farming towns.

[It's funny, but I only just now realized that one could twist it into F-ingham!]

Route 50 doesnt go through Effingham but most of the towns along it are still in good shape.  Olney has just really took a crap if you drive around the city and look at it.

 

10/12/2011 8:12 pm  #117


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APRTW wrote:

Route 50 doesnt go through Effingham

Yes, see the subsequent post.  From L-ville, turn right at Olney toward F-ingham

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