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10/16/2011 10:09 pm  #1


WS Game 1 (where's Artie)

Thursday night, Busch Stadium

Carp will pitch game 1, and at this point La Russa will be able to set his rotation anyway he wants.  I hope he hasn't lost all faith in Garcia, and pitches Garcia in Games 2 and 6, Carp in 1, and 5.  Not sure what to do about 3, 4, and 7.

 

10/16/2011 10:29 pm  #2


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Where will we bat Craig when in Texas?

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10/16/2011 10:39 pm  #3


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World Series starts Wednesday.

 

10/16/2011 10:57 pm  #4


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forsberg_us wrote:

World Series starts Wednesday.

Could be.  I was just repeating what I thought I heard the announcers say.


In any event, interesting that they're talking about making Holliday the DH.  That would be a shocker after the talk about Berkman's inability to play the outfield, and Craig's inability to play any position at all.

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10/16/2011 11:00 pm  #5


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They've been advertising Game 1 on Wednesday all night. It definitely starts Wednesday.

I should say Fox was advertising it all night. My kids were watching that stupid X Factor show.

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10/16/2011 11:08 pm  #6


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I'm watching TBS, and these guys are not that good.

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10/16/2011 11:17 pm  #7


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Rams lost today in Green Bay. Will gladly accept another Rams loss next week in Dallas if it means Cardinals win in Texas next Sunday.

 

10/17/2011 7:32 am  #8


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I don't know why they talked like Holliday will be the DH.

Hopefully TBS rids itself of Brian Anderson. The guy was a joke.

 

10/17/2011 7:58 am  #9


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I agree with Garcia being game two starter.  I rather him pitch at home. 

IDK who will be the DH.  Holliday, Berkman and Craig are pretty equal.

TBS broadcast really sucked.  I am ready for some Joe Buck.

 

10/17/2011 8:42 am  #10


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DH is wierd. On the one hand, I'd say Berkman. As long as he's okay to just hit without being on the field. Otherwise I'd say Craig. I can't see Holliday being the DH. I could even see a "reach" DH being Theriot, and batting him in the 2 hole, but that seems unlikely after Jay finding the ability to reach base in front of AP.

One thing is crystal clear however. I love that we have to address this question!

 

10/17/2011 8:47 am  #11


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My home computer got infected by a virus, so I can only post at work.

Wonder if Tony Plush will be watching Alberta and the rest of the Baby Birds in the World Series?

 

10/17/2011 8:54 am  #12


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tkihshbt wrote:

I don't know why they talked like Holliday will be the DH.

Hopefully TBS rids itself of Brian Anderson. The guy was a joke.

Yeah, there was a degree of certitude there that didn't make sense. I'm almost positive Craig will be in RF and Berkman will be the DH.
The good thing is this year's team is better built to play with a DH than the last two WS teams were. I recall So Taguchi being in the lineup and maybe even batting ninth for a couple of games in the AL parks.
I didn't think Anderson was as bad as Dick Stockton from an accuracy perspective, but you're asking for trouble if you assign a guy to the playoffs who's covered the Brewers all year and tell him he has to be neutral.
Darling was phenomenal as usual. Smoltz was OK, but he didn't really add anything that Darling couldn't say better. It's tough to compete with those Yale guys.

 

10/17/2011 9:00 am  #13


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The thing that concerns me the most is the Rangers' stable of left-handed starters. The Cardinals' are obviously a much better team with Jay in the 2-hole, and Furcal (did Carpenter really call him "Furkie" last night?) and Berkman batting left-handed.
I assume the same people who predicted "Tigers in 3" and denounced the Rasmus trade will proclaim Texas to be the favorite. Who cares at this point? This is just way too much fun.

 

10/17/2011 9:41 am  #14


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artie_fufkin wrote:

My home computer got infected by a virus, so I can only post at work.

Wonder if Tony Plush will be watching Alberta and the rest of the Baby Birds in the World Series?

Porn will do that to you.  You were trying to look up the Ashton Kutcher sex tape werent you?

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10/17/2011 10:10 am  #15


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artie_fufkin wrote:

The thing that concerns me the most is the Rangers' stable of left-handed starters. The Cardinals' are obviously a much better team with Jay in the 2-hole, and Furcal (did Carpenter really call him "Furkie" last night?) and Berkman batting left-handed.
I assume the same people who predicted "Tigers in 3" and denounced the Rasmus trade will proclaim Texas to be the favorite. Who cares at this point? This is just way too much fun.

I'm declaring them the favorite based on how mediocre the starting pitching was against Milwaukee. If they have trouble beating the Hairstons, Betencourts and Lucroys, then I don't think they bode well against a bottom of the order that has Nelson Cruz, David Murphy and Mitch Moreland.

Plus, their bullpen is lights out. I think Carpenter and Garcia are the only starting pitchers I trust.

 

10/17/2011 11:02 am  #16


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APRTW wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

My home computer got infected by a virus, so I can only post at work.

Wonder if Tony Plush will be watching Alberta and the rest of the Baby Birds in the World Series?

Porn will do that to you.  You were trying to look up the Ashton Kutcher sex tape werent you?

It's my son's lap top. If he's surfing for Ashton Kutcher porn, I'm in big trouble.
The family PC is in a room without a TV, and if I try to post and watch the game, I end up missing too much of the game.

 

10/17/2011 11:06 am  #17


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tkihshbt wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

The thing that concerns me the most is the Rangers' stable of left-handed starters. The Cardinals' are obviously a much better team with Jay in the 2-hole, and Furcal (did Carpenter really call him "Furkie" last night?) and Berkman batting left-handed.
I assume the same people who predicted "Tigers in 3" and denounced the Rasmus trade will proclaim Texas to be the favorite. Who cares at this point? This is just way too much fun.

I'm declaring them the favorite based on how mediocre the starting pitching was against Milwaukee. If they have trouble beating the Hairstons, Betencourts and Lucroys, then I don't think they bode well against a bottom of the order that has Nelson Cruz, David Murphy and Mitch Moreland.

Plus, their bullpen is lights out. I think Carpenter and Garcia are the only starting pitchers I trust.

Yeah, but their starting pitching numbers don't scare me. I'd like to say I have a feeling of how this series will play out, but every baseball intuition starting with the day before the crappy Dodgers came to St. Louis and swept the Cardinals has been wrong.

 

10/17/2011 1:13 pm  #18


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I wonder what the Rangers NL lineup is going to be.  Not matter who they start they are going to have a couple guys on the bench that can light us up in the 8th and 9th inning.

 

10/17/2011 1:27 pm  #19


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APRTW wrote:

I wonder what the Rangers NL lineup is going to be.  Not matter who they start they are going to have a couple guys on the bench that can light us up in the 8th and 9th inning.

I suspect Moreland sits and Young goes to 1B.  My guess is their lineup will look something like:

Kinsler- 2B
Andrus- SS
Hamilton- CF
Young- 1B
Beltre- 3B
Napoli- C
Cruz- RF
Murphy- LF
Pitcher

 

10/17/2011 1:33 pm  #20


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APRTW wrote:

I wonder what the Rangers NL lineup is going to be.  Not matter who they start they are going to have a couple guys on the bench that can light us up in the 8th and 9th inning.

I believe it's been:

Kinsler, 2B
Andrus, SS
Hamilton, CF
Young, 1B
Beltre, 3B
Napoli, C
Cruz, RF
Chavez, LF

Napoli is a tremendous hitter, but he's pretty weak defensively. That should create some stolen base opportunities for Furcal. Not Jay. Jay is Schumaker Fast, which is defined as "someone who you would think is quick, but is actually really slow." Also, I think they'll play around with left field/first base depending on who the pitcher is. For Garcia, I expect Chavez, but for the other three, it'll probably be Murphy.

I think the Cardinals could have a nice advantage with the Rangers throwing out lefties in three of the four games, especially when the series shifts to Texas.

 

10/17/2011 3:17 pm  #21


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"I suspect Moreland sits and Young goes to 1B.  My guess is their lineup will look something like:

Kinsler- 2B
Andrus- SS
Hamilton- CF
Young- 1B
Beltre- 3B
Napoli- C
Cruz- RF
Murphy- LF
Pitcher"

I heard pretty much the same thing this morning. Absent Chavez, there's not a lot of speed there. And TK is correct. There's not a lot of defense from their catcher when Torrealba sits, and Torrealba ain't Johnny Bench with the glove, either.
Their ballpark supposedly plays small, like Miller Park. I'm just going by what I hear, read and the parts of the playoff games I've seen the past two years. I have to confess ignorance about the AL West. Of the six divisions, I probably pay attention to it the least. If I'm awake for the late game, I'm usually watching the Dodgers or the Giants. I don't think I've ever watched a Rangers' regular season game in its entirety.

 

10/17/2011 3:31 pm  #22


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I'm not sure whether you're defining speed as "fast enough to cut off balls in the gap," or stolen base speed, but if you're talking about the latter, Texas has plenty.  Kinsler and Andrus both had 30+ steals and Cruz, Hamilton and Murphy will steal the occasional base.  Beltre and Young used to run a little, but age has taken its toll on them.

All in all, I'd say the Rangers base running speed is at least equivalent, if not superior to the Cardinals.  I don't think we stole as many bases as a team as Kinsler and Andrus did.

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10/17/2011 11:59 pm  #23


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artie_fufkin wrote:

There's not a lot of defense from their catcher when Torrealba sits, and Torrealba ain't Johnny Bench with the glove, either.

which fortunately plays to our strength of speed, speed, and more speed.

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10/18/2011 3:02 am  #24


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forsberg_us wrote:

I'm not sure whether you're defining speed as "fast enough to cut off balls in the gap," or stolen base speed, but if you're talking about the latter, Texas has plenty.  Kinsler and Andrus both had 30+ steals and Cruz, Hamilton and Murphy will steal the occasional base.  Beltre and Young used to run a little, but age has taken its toll on them.

All in all, I'd say the Rangers base running speed is at least equivalent, if not superior to the Cardinals.  I don't think we stole as many bases as a team as Kinsler and Andrus did.

If they have two 30 plus guys then it is way better then ours.  Plus that is on a team that doesnt need to steal bases to create runs.

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10/18/2011 8:42 am  #25


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"Kinsler and Andrus both had 30+ steals and Cruz, Hamilton and Murphy will steal the occasional base."

See, I didn't know all that. Most of what I know about Kinsler is from college, and I don't remember him stealing a lot of bases at ASU, before he transferred to some safety school in the Midwest.

 

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