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10/21/2011 1:23 pm  #126


Re: World Series, Game 2

APRTW wrote:

I could see Passan going with the story if been ill tempered in an interview or refused verbally to speak about the play.  Instead Pujols just wasnt around to be spoken to.  Then he expects the manager and other players to throw the future hall of fame free agent under the bus?  I wouldnt have really bugged me because I know Passan is a douche but Yahoo put it as one of their front page stories.  That is to much credit to give Passan and his bogus story.

Actually Strauss has tweeted about it quite a bit this morning in a less than favorable light to the players/team:

"Of course, usual suspects already lining up to serve as apologists for Cards who bolted. No town rivals ours for media enablers. None."

"@JohnMarecek They've seen it many times. This was just refresher course. Club acts as if paralyed."

"This. RT @JeffPassan: Leadership is difficult to quantify. Albert Pujols failed miserably at it after Game 2. Column: http://yhoo.it/oQ1EDa"

"Cards well aware of THUR nite retreat from media. Interesting how (or if) it and MLB respond. Props to young players who stood, took heat."

 

10/21/2011 2:50 pm  #127


Re: World Series, Game 2

Passan is ... meh. Decent writer, but always comes off as a pompous dickwad. Coming from me, that's saying something!

I've never liked the "manual media" bullshit surrounding these events. These guys have been prepping since February, travelling and working for the goal of winning the World Series. It's a bitter pill to swallow losing like we did last night, but at least give them the right to swallow it privately, and not stuff a microphone in their face and sensationalize every goddamned pitch.

"Albert do you think your 0-3 performance at the plate contributed to the loss?"
"Albert do you think the game turns out differently if you field that relay? What went wrong?"
"Albert do you have a hard time sleeping when you see the images of fans crying over the loss, in their freezing gear sitting out there praying for you to come through? How do you put away that feeling and get ready for game 3?"

.... The first thing I do is go get one of my bats and beat you about the head and shoulders with it until your body stops twitching. Then I go drink a 5th of vodka and drive downtown to find an escort with no limitations for a nice blurry session of unprotected sex and intravenous drugs. All while taking the lord's name in vain.

What possible good comes from post-loss interviews anyway?

 

10/21/2011 3:10 pm  #128


Re: World Series, Game 2

alz wrote:

What possible good comes from post-loss interviews anyway?

Good point.

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10/21/2011 3:17 pm  #129


Re: World Series, Game 2

"Back on Sept. 12, when the St. Louis Cardinals trailed the National League wild card by 4 1/2 games with 15 to play in the season, some slaphappy fan at the MGM sports book in Las Vegas put down $500 of faith in his team.

What were the odds that the Cardinals were going to come back from the brink and make something of themselves and make this dude some cash? Well, not only can we tell you the odds, but we can also tell you what the payoff is.

[Related: Ian Kinsler steals a bag and Game 2 for the Rangers]

The sap true believer, Deadspin reports, wagered $250 at 500-to-1 odds that Team Fredbird would take the NL pennant, along with another $250 — at 999-to-1 odds — that the Cardinals would win the World Series.

Well, the fella (a St. Louisan, Deadspin says) is already $125,000 richer after the Cards upset the Phillies and Brewers in the NL playoffs, and he's three more St. Louis victories away from winning $250,000. Sounds great, doesn't it, cashing in on the old hometown team? But there's a downside.

Having so much money on the line must take away some of the joy he could be feeling as a fan right now. You know how people get on Monday nights when their fantasy football score is coming down to a reception from Wide Receiver "A" against the extra-point total for Placekicker "B"? It stops being fun and starts to become something else. They turn into real jerks. (I know, having turned into one myself from time to time.) This is 250 grand on the line, too, not just a reason to exclaim "I love Drew Brees."

Does the guy who bets the Kentucky Derby every year love horses? Or does he just love betting on them?

[Y! Sports Shop: Buy Cardinals hats, jerseys and more]

This Cardinals bettor — and maybe he's a great fan otherwise — has become something like a team owner. Only, he has no authority and no actual pride of ownership. Just a fleeting monetary investment. To him, the Redbirds aren't a great comeback story for the sake of being a great comeback story; they are just a deposit to his bank account. A way to pay off his car, or install an above-ground pool, or sock some away for the kids' college fund. A means to an end. And this is if the Cardinals win.

If they lose, the Cardinals will always be the guys who almost won him $375,000 (before taxes), but instead only won him $125,000. It's actually kind of sad, the loss of innocence. It's like the man says: He who gambles lives in shambles.

(Update: Hey, let's give credit where it's due: Joe Sports Fan had this story THREE DAYS ago. Be sure to check their handiwork.)"

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10/22/2011 6:14 pm  #130


Re: World Series, Game 2

"What possible good comes from post-loss interviews anyway?"

Well, you get their perspective. Except reporters these days aren't looking for an explanation, they were looking to assign blame and, in Passan's case, take a shot at a player from a team  he clearly doesn't like.
It's what celebrity media guys do to promote themselves. Make the story about him. A reporter is supposed to represent the people who read his paper or watch his segment on TV and ask the questions they would most want asked. That mentality got lost for some of them a long time ago - about the time Chris Betrman started making up nicknames for players.

 

10/22/2011 7:37 pm  #131


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The issue, again, is HOW does Pujols exhibit leadership.  And anyone on the Cards would say that Pujols does it on the field through his play, and off the field through his work ethic.  He doesn't do it through his mouth, particularly after he makes a mistake.

 

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