APRTW wrote:

Did someone say Garth Brooks and PBR?

C'mon. You're a Natty Light guy.

"PBR is good beer."

I thought of PBR because a couple of weeks ago I was a guest at one of the members-only dive bars we have in town where the choices were PBR, Bud and Bud Light. Anheuser-Busch products go through me like Liquid Plumber, so I ended up drinking PBR all night.
I honestly wouldn't know Garth Brooks if I bumped into him, but the guy who used to sit across the aisle from me at work was a big C&W fan.

Greatest beer slogans of all time:

"Red, White, & Blue . . . tastes just as good as Pabst"
"Keystone . . . the beer to have, when you're having more than one"

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Hoops-hazing-back-in-crosshairs-after-disgusting?urn=highschool-wp9312


Ookie cookie anyone?

I wonder what kind of cookie it was.  I like snickerdoodles.

artie_fufkin wrote:

APRTW wrote:

I wonder what kind of cookie it was.  I like snickerdoodles.

It was apparently an Oreo. Feel free to insert a "Double Stuff" reference at your leisure.

I though the cream filling went on the inside.

APRTW wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

APRTW wrote:

I wonder what kind of cookie it was.  I like snickerdoodles.

It was apparently an Oreo. Feel free to insert a "Double Stuff" reference at your leisure.

I though the cream filling went on the inside.

Curious coincidence, but a guy who I like very much was sent to jail on totally bullshit charges . .  . political correctness on acid.  It seems like no one is going to make his bail, and he's gonna have to spend about 9 days in jail waiting for his hearing.  I can't read this stuff without wondering what's going on with him.  A guy like me would be supremely concerned about insertions and double stuff references, but I spent an hour on the phone with this guy's CL wife and she's not worried.  He's a UFC fighter.

Still, while I'm pretty sure he could kick most anybody's ass other than a much bigger UFC fighter, what if 4 or 5 of them gang up on him???

ewwwwww,  to any of the "toppings"

Max wrote:

Still, while I'm pretty sure he could kick most anybody's ass other than a much bigger UFC fighter, what if 4 or 5 of them gang up on him???

Jail isnt that bad of place.  It is more difficult for the socially challenged then the physically weak.  I wouldnt be scared to be there.  It is the mental part of being seperated from your life, family and freedom that would be hard.  Most criminals are not complete heartless shitbags.  In fact when I worked the jail I figured if shit really went bad half the guys would be on my side.  Treat people fair.  They might not like you but they will respect you.  Respect is harder to earn the friendship. 

What kind of trouble did your buddy get into?

If she got a restraining order she likely had to accuse him of threats or domestic battery.  If he is guilty of that then he needs to adjust his behavior.  If he is not guilty then he needs to ask himself why he is still with a women that would accuse him of such things.  That is the personal side of it.  The legal side is that if the order is still valid then he has to follow it.  I arrest people under the exact same situations.  You do what judges say.  If one told me to jump up on the table and take a shit I would start pushing before I got my pants down.  If the police did nothing when they came acrossed those two in violation of the order of protection and then later that night he beats the shit out of her they get egg on their face and likely much more.  IMO, what I would change is make it so both parties can be arrested for violating the RO.  I am sure he understands now.  However there are many out there that dont understand how much trouble they can cause for themselfs by getting back with a chick before they get the RO dropped.

As I hear the story from both wife and husband, he did not threaten her with violence, nor did she ask for a restraining order.  Rather they were going through a rough patch and they returned from a night of drinking with their gay friend (a nice guy, but a bit of a smart aleck).  She decided she wanted to go out again with just the gay friend and as she was walking out the door, grabbed a glass with alcohol in it--her version: to dump it out.  His version: he thought she was going to have another drink before leaving.  He reached to stop her from grabbing the glass, 120 pound gay smart aleck thought he was trying to hit her and stepped in to play the Sir Galahad bit, and tried to interpose himself between husband and wife.  Things got heated.  Wife and gay guy left house and she called the police from the parking lot; her version: to bring in a third party to calm everyone down.  Police arrived, arrested husband, and judge slapped a restraining order on him against the wife's wishes . . . that her version.  My questions to her before helping bail him out:

Do you want him out of jail: yes.
Has he ever threatened you: no, of course not.
Has he ever threatened your daughter: Oh my God no.
Has he ever been a violent guy who gets into fights: No, guys try to pick fights with him in bars (maybe because of his hobby i am guessing) but he always talks them out of it and winds up having a beer.

Have you ever met one of those guys who are physically fit and who possess enormous self-defense skills, and who are the most serene people you know?  This is him. 

And FWIW, in the second argument where the neighbors called, the wife admits that it was she who was yelling at him.

Anyway, he just got out, and as we'd been baby-sitting their little girl, I just got back from dropping her off with him.  He seems totally fine and unfazed.

Last edited by Max (12/06/2011 12:23 am)

forsberg_us wrote:

Nowadays there's very little discretion in domestic violence cases. It's not about political correctness, it's about avoiding liability. In the 80s, there were a lot of lawsuits filed when cops didn't make arrests and separated the parties, only to have the guy come back and kill or seriously injure the woman. This led to mandatory arrest laws. If there's any indication a crime happened (battery, property damage, etc...) someone goes to jail regardless of whether the victim wants to prosecute. Our department had a policy that the suspect stayed 20 hours without bond and couldn't get released without at least 2 attempts to contact the victim. My guess, your area has similar laws that go a step farther and require issuance of a protective order. It may seem excessive, but nowadays, it doesn't shock me.

I am suprised about the OP against the womens wishing.  Something sounds untruthfull about that.