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- Larry Walker
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The new hitting policy.
Well guys, it has arrived. We're now staring at an NFL with the following.
Devastating hits are being fined, with future promise of suspensions. Not helmet to helmet against an unprotected player devastating hits that deserve it (Ref. the Todd Heap hit in the Ravens/Patriots game. That was bullshit), but devastating hits.
I don't think anything was a terribly wrong hit with one exception this weekend. Merriman vs Heap. Nobody can defend that hit to me, and I would never try to explain it as anything other than douchebaggery (not a real word, but I'm making it one).
Desean Jackson was unfortunate, but not illegal. Harrison's shots weren't that bad. I don't like taking the defenders ability to lower his head and run at someone as long as you allow the RUNNING BACKS to do that same bullshit. So take off the helmets, and let them play the game. Folks won't lead with their heads after that, I promise you!
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Did anyone else catch the ESPN ticker last night? Apparently the NFL was selling photos of the "illegal" hits on its website. They pulled the photos when someone called them on it.
Stay classy boys.
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I love this quote,
"You take the contact away, and it's soccer," added Mark Schlereth during a rant on ESPN.
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Desean Jackson was unfortunate, but not illegal. Harrison's shots weren't that bad. I don't like taking the defenders ability to lower his head and run at someone as long as you allow the RUNNING BACKS to do that same bullshit. So take off the helmets, and let them play the game. Folks won't lead with their heads after that, I promise you!
Robinson's hit was absolutely dirty. Don't use your head as a missile. It's as simple as that.
I did just watch an interview bit with Scott Fujita, who made a good point that the league can't talk health and safety while demanding an 18-game schedule.
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"I don't think anything was a terribly wrong hit with one exception this weekend. Merriman vs Heap"
Impossible. The Patriots would never employ anyone who takes cheap shots. Rodney Harrison said so.
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"Apparently the NFL was selling photos of the "illegal" hits on its website"
For $55, framed.
I stopped watching the Worldwide Leader's football highlights show about the 99th straight Sunday Tom Jackson referred to Al Davis' sanity, but does ESPN still do that "Jacked Up" segment? That nonsense is a half a peg up from Roddy Piper smashing a banana over Superfly Snuka's head.
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"Mark Schlereth during a rant"
That's implicit.
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Just what the NFL needs, more rules that are left up to someones interpretation and opinion. At some point this world is going to have to understand that it isnt a perfect world and every problem cant be fixed with a new rule. That is what NASCAR does. Every week a new problem and a new rule. It isnt much of a sport. The NFL wont be either if they keep this up.
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The NFL will be fine without guys using the crown of their heads as a weapon.
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"At some point this world is going to have to understand that it isnt a perfect world and every problem cant be fixed with a new rule."
AP, you might as well be speaking Swahili to the NFL folks because they think EVERYTHING can be legislated. Remember, these are people who issue fines to players if the top of their socks don't come up to the bottom of their pants.
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tkihshbt wrote:
The NFL will be fine without guys using the crown of their heads as a weapon.
True, but the NFL won't be fine if referees start penalizing/ejecting players for hits not involving the crown of the helmet that looked wrong when viewed at full speed.
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I guess, but I also don't see that many hits where it wasn't obvious.
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I guess, but I also don't see that many hits where it wasn't obvious.
I've seen several calls this year where the call has been for helmet to helmet contact where replay showed the contact was made with the shoulder.
Many of the calls that will now result in a suspension weren't called penalties during the game. IMO, that shows how difficult it is at regular speed to determine the origin of the contact. I would expect the referees to be hyper sensitive about this issue, and if they're going to make mistakes, it's likely going to be by calling penalties that shouldn't be penalties, not the other way around.
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I guess, but I also don't see that many hits where it wasn't obvious.
And the NFL has never had a problem with the obvious?
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I guess, but I also don't see that many hits where it wasn't obvious.
And the NFL has never had a problem with the obvious?
"After further review, the quarterback's arm was going forward ..."
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Even punters think the new policy is stupid.
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As for some of the hits being dirty this weekend. There are other things that go into a hit.
One the cleveland receiver lowering hit pads about a foot with Harrison bearing down on him, that's not entirely on Harrison. You line someone up and run for them, he's trying to make a bobbled reception, ducks down a bit, and OH MY GOD THAT WAS HELMET TO HELMET YOU DIRTY SON OF A BITCH!!! /FLAG /FINE /SUSPENSION.
Wait a minute here, bullshit. The guy took a dive to go for the football, he got his poo pushed in, that sucks, but it happens.
For the Cleveland runner? Well he's a running back, he put his head down to run straight, Harrison put his head down and ran through him. If you want to fine that, then fine, but fine every running back who ducks his head and runs, because when they do that, they leave tacklers no option other than get ran over, or lay down to get lower...
For Robinson, and I can't believe I'm gonna link this clown because normally I think he's just a fucking tool.
He saw what I saw, minimal helmet, a lot of shoulder pad, a heavy impact from the speed and the Jackson not looking in front of him, and an unfortunate injury, but a legal hit. A defensive back has to look back to the football, can't hit a receiver who's extended in the air and vulnerable, can't shield, can't make contact early, can't grab... Yo, fuck that noise, that's bullshit if you tell him he can't hit the dude hard without worrying about some bullshit pussies saying, "OMG that was an injury shot!!! You bastard!!!!" /fine /suspension.
Why don't we give every player a dice. The QB says he is hiking the ball, and making a play action fake to the running back. Make him roll it, if he rolls 1, then it's a fumble, and the two teams roll to see who got possession. If he makes his roll, he's allowed to drop back and any defensive lineman who rolls a 5/6 is in line for a sack, and must outroll the QB 1v1 for there to be a sack. Otherwise the QB gets to call out a passing receiver, and make the yardage a factor in what he needs to roll, let the WR roll for catching, and the DB roll for defending. Now you have a fucking safe football game, but forgive me if I don't fucking watch Football and Dragons on TV. I watch for the hits, the big plays, the running game, the pass, the sacks, the collisions, the impact, and apparently I'm the odd man out in today's society that likes to watch guys try to beat the shit out of each other.... I don't care, that's what I find entertaining, and this hitting nonsense is just another layer of us trying to take the barbarianism out of the game (which is fucking WHY we watch to begin with).
/endrant.
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Excellent rant. 5 stars
- APIAD
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They best thing they could have done was let the player police themselfs. Harrison would be on crutches by now.