I might feel differently if I were a Falcons fan, but I don't see too many reasons for Atlanta to take umbrage. The Saints weren't running up the score solely to embarrass their opponent. I was a little more surprised when Tirico relayed Payton's comment about there not being "10 people in our locker room who are aware of the record." Come on. Everybody in the world knew what was going on. Why lie and pretend it's not a big deal?

I thought it was a horseshit move.  He would have broken the record next week--the Saints are still playing for a first week bye, so it isn't like they're going to sit him.  Quite frankly, the Saints are lucky that someone on Atlanta didn't take a shot at Brees' knee on that last drive.

Brees' last TD pass decided our fantasy league.  I wasn't involved in the match-up, so it didn't bother me from that perspective.

BTW- someone just pointed out to me that the Saints play at home again next week, so either way, the record would have been broken in front of the home town fans.

forsberg_us wrote:

Brees' last TD pass decided our fantasy league.  I wasn't involved in the match-up, so it didn't bother me from that perspective.

BTW- someone just pointed out to me that the Saints play at home again next week, so either way, the record would have been broken in front of the home town fans.

Well then I kind of see a point..  No real reason to get bent out of shape about it when the Patriots do it every week.

"On topic: the article points out that Brady is not far behind, and with a good game could pass both Marino and Brees."

Brady will pass Marino, but being 190 yards behind Brees, the only way Brady passes Brees is if Brees gets injured.

APRTW wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Brees' last TD pass decided our fantasy league.  I wasn't involved in the match-up, so it didn't bother me from that perspective.

BTW- someone just pointed out to me that the Saints play at home again next week, so either way, the record would have been broken in front of the home town fans.

Well then I kind of see a point..  No real reason to get bent out of shape about it when the Patriots do it every week.

It's also one of the reasons the Patriots are the most despised team in the league.  I understand the idea of "if you don't like it, stop them."  But don't get shocked when a player takes matters into his own hands.  You steal a base late in a baseball game with a big lead, someone on your team probably gets drilled.  You run up the score in football, you run the risk someone on the defense takes a cheap shot.

"I understand the idea of "if you don't like it, stop them."

There's no need to embarrass another team just because you can. Unless of course you're playing Notre Dame.

forsberg_us wrote:

don.rob11 wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

I thought it was a horseshit move.  He would have broken the record next week--the Saints are still playing for a first week bye, so it isn't like they're going to sit him.  Quite frankly, the Saints are lucky that someone on Atlanta didn't take a shot at Brees' knee on that last drive.

Then he would have possibly been out for the year; no record, and playoff hopes gone....

Exactly.  And while people would have blamed the defender, I would have blamed Sean Payton for putting Brees in position to sustain the injury.

The irony is that Atlanta could have eliminated the problem with one cheap shot.  Brees needed 30 yards and the drive started at the Atlanta 33.  One 15 yard roughing the passer, and there wouldn't have been enough yards left to break the record--unless New Orleans declined the penalty.

That's cruel.  That would be some serious sour grapes.  Like if the Padres had sat on their hands and stopped playing defense, allowing the Dodgers to score a run by the 9th inning, such that Hershiser could not break Drysdale's scoreless innings streak.

Max wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

"On topic: the article points out that Brady is not far behind, and with a good game could pass both Marino and Brees."

Brady will pass Marino, but being 190 yards behind Brees, the only way Brady passes Brees is if Brees gets injured.

Or if they get conservative and stop throwing when they get ahead.  My point was that they might have been running the score up to break the record, but they were also doing it to keep a healthy distance ahead Diamond Tom Brady, and I can't quibble about that.

LOL!!!  When was the last time you watched a New Orleans game Max?  Brees has averaged 40 attempts and 297 yards per game since joining the Saints 6 seasons ago.  Their leading rusher has 563 yards for the SEASON.  This season they've passed the ball 624 times compared to 396 running plays.  Last season it was 661 passes to 380 running plays.  My point being this isn't a single season trend.  It's just the way they play.

Oh, and New Orleans' defense isn't very good.  They've given up over 21 points per game.  They win because they score points.  Lots and lots of points

forsberg_us wrote:

Max wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Exactly.  And while people would have blamed the defender, I would have blamed Sean Payton for putting Brees in position to sustain the injury.

The irony is that Atlanta could have eliminated the problem with one cheap shot.  Brees needed 30 yards and the drive started at the Atlanta 33.  One 15 yard roughing the passer, and there wouldn't have been enough yards left to break the record--unless New Orleans declined the penalty.

That's cruel.  That would be some serious sour grapes.  Like if the Padres had sat on their hands and stopped playing defense, allowing the Dodgers to score a run by the 9th inning, such that Hershiser could not break Drysdale's scoreless innings streak.

Not trying to be a smart ass, but how would the Padres allowing the Dodgers to score affect Hershiser's scoreless streak?

if the Dodgers had won in 9, Hersheiser would have fallen just short of Drysdale's record for scoreless innings in a season.  It was only the amazing coincidence that the teams wound up tied at zero after nine that pushed the last game of the season into extra innings and gave Hershiser a shot at Drysdale's record.

Strange but true!

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forsberg_us wrote:

Gotcha.  Didn't realize he broke the record at the end of the season.  For the life of me I couldn't figure how the Dodgers scoring would have ended the streak.

It's funny, because the Dodgers were pretty good in '88, and had a bit of pop when needed.  I lived in LA and remember the streak, and at 24 years old I never would have considered what I would now: maybe the Dodgers position players all sort of knew not to score, unless the Pads scored first.

No apologies if I am skeptical of amazing coincidences at this point in my life.

If the streak extends into the playoffs, that's a different record. 

Consecutive scoreless innings pitched
59.0 - Orel Hershiser, Los Angeles Dodgers - August 30, 1988 through September 28, 1988. (does not include 8 scoreless innings pitched in Hershiser's next appearance in Game 1 of the NLCS or 2/3 of a scoreless inning pitched on April 5, 1989 to open the next season, as Elias Sports Bureau credits a starting pitcher with a scoreless inning only if no runs score in that inning)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_individual_streaks