Lilliquist ?

Now they're saying Duncan may stay involved with organization in a different capacity that allows him to be home. Official announcement and details to come tomorrow.

Bernie is tweeting that Lilliquist is the likely succesor.

Agreed AP. This isn't a good thing.

forsberg_us wrote:

Agreed AP. This isn't a good thing.

First things first.  I am sure you both meant to say that this is not a good thing, because of the implications for the health of his wife.  Secondly, it's bad for the Cards because of the loss of his experience.  Third, I was kind of expecting this anyway, seeing as though it seems like there is a wholesale turn over of La Russa people.

Max wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Agreed AP. This isn't a good thing.

First things first.  I am sure you both meant to say that this is not a good thing, because of the implications for the health of his wife.  Secondly, it's bad for the Cards because of the loss of his experience.  Third, I was kind of expecting this anyway, seeing as though it seems like there is a wholesale turn over of La Russa people.

No I was just talking about the effect it will have on the Cardinals.  I figured it went without saying that I didnt want his wife to die.  Next time I will be sure to comment on how I dont wish for peoples death.

Max wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Between Bernie and Strauss, the suggestions were that Mrs. Duncan is presntly OK, but after giving it more thought, Duncan thought it best to spend more time at home. Based on what they're saying there isn't an indication she has taken a turn for the worse.

Interesting.  It makes me wonder if this has more to do with wanting to be gone.

She has brain cancer Max. I'm not going to suggest I know the treatment regiment for brain cancer, but what was being tweeted last night was that Duncan felt he should be with her through the treatment. Doesn't mean her condition is any worse than it was last week, but if they've entered a new stage of treatment or if she's having adverse reactions to chemo or radiation and he decided to stay home rather than go to Jupiter in 5 weeks, then good for him

Not everything has to be a conspiracy.

alz wrote:

Fors, you didn't mention that you wanted her to live, so you clearly want her dead.

You heartless bastard!

That's me.  Speaking of heartless bastards.

"Though Mozeliak postponed discussing further details of the situation Thursday night, sources confirmed that Cardinals chairman Bill DeWitt Jr. recently agreed to assume the balance of Duncan's contract, which runs through the upcoming season and included a buyout for 2013. Duncan, however, will not serve in that capacity this season."

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/duncan-leaving-cardinals/article_2ea08f55-a083-5d5f-b479-9813e3d9d451.html#ixzz1ihC6gn5W

The Morning Show interviewed Strauss about the situation.  Check out segment 5

http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/RadioShows/ITDMorningAfter/tabid/88/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/8081/Fridays-Show-Audio---Duncan-Is-Leaving-Is-a-Football-Coach-on-the-Horizon.aspx

Per Strauss, Duncan approached about a settlement and the Cardinals simply agreed to pay his salary.  That Dewitt, what an unyielding prick.  I wonder what Didi Pujols thinks.  On second thought, no I don't.

Last edited by forsberg_us (1/06/2012 11:29 am)

I dont think Duncan left just because he was upset because of the recent coaching staff moves but I am sure it helped.  Still it is pretty nice of the Cards to pay him his contract.  They didnt have to do that at all.

"st. louis press puts a nice spin it on it doesn't mean there can't be more to the story."

Strauss is your favorite, unbiased reporter until he writes something you don't like, then he's just another member of the media spinning for Cardinals.

One of my colleagues just pointed out another interesting tidbit--by calling this a leave of absence rather than having Duncan resign/retire, Duncan (more importantly, Mrs. Duncan) remains covered by the team's health insurance.  Heartless bastards.  Just give Duncan his COBRA forms and let him hit the street.

alz wrote:

For the money he pocketed? I can only say I would do the same. If I owned a profitable franchise, and could easily shelf 50 million dollars for myself by keeping the team quazi-competitive, and keep my fans, I totally would.

I would never in a million years expect my employer to continue to pay me if I quit.  Duncan quit and it is really that simple.  I wouldnt expect to stay on their insurance either.  Duncan and his wife are both of medicare age so it isnt like they would have been thrown out to the wolves.  I am not saying they shouldnt have done this but in the real world it doesnt happen.

forsberg_us wrote:

One of my colleagues just pointed out another interesting tidbit--by calling this a leave of absence rather than having Duncan resign/retire, Duncan (more importantly, Mrs. Duncan) remains covered by the team's health insurance.  Heartless bastards.  Just give Duncan his COBRA forms and let him hit the street.

All sounds very nice.  Now, are there any other ramifications of treating it as a leave of absence?  For example, does it limit his ability to accept any other position, or even negotiate with any other organization?