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2/02/2012 4:21 pm  #1


Edwin Jackson to Nationals

 

2/02/2012 8:01 pm  #2


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

The draft pick thing is good but for 10 million and only one year, the Cardinals could have really up-graded over Westbrook.  It is reallly only 7.5 million if you figure in dealing McCellan.  Wainwright, Carp, Garcia, jackson Loshe would have been a nice an more secure then Oswalt.

 

2/02/2012 10:55 pm  #3


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

Jackson is less likely to get injured than Oswalt, but he isn't anywhere near the pitcher. I don't think Jackson's that good, and without Duncan, I wouldn't want him back.

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2/03/2012 8:55 am  #4


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

I agree that Jackson isnt all he is hyped up to be.  GMs must understand that or else he wouldnt have ended up playing for the Nationals on a one year deal.  The bad news for Jackson is that the pitching market is stronger next year.  Depending on what can be done will some of the people on the Cardinals current payroll I might have wanted Jackson back.

 

2/03/2012 9:47 am  #5


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

I think Boras oversold Jackson on his market value similar to what happened with Lohse.  Maybe E-Jax will get lucky and the Washington GM will throw a 4/$42M deal at him during the season.

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2/03/2012 11:47 am  #6


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

The write-up on the Jackson signing by the Post-Dispatch said the Cardinals payroll is 113 million.  Trading McCellan might bump that down to 110ish but if they sign Oswalt it will be 115-120 million.  I dont think payroll is a bitch we Cardinals fans can complain about anymore.

 

2/04/2012 12:17 pm  #7


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

Now that the Nats have signed Jackson they are "aggressively" shopping Lannan. This is a 27-yo lefty with very decent stats who will earn $5 mill this year and won't hit free agency until after 2013. I'd love to see the Cards come up with a way to add him but they probably don't have the right mix of prospects for a low-risk offer unless Washington is looking for relievers.

 

2/04/2012 12:49 pm  #8


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

forsberg_us wrote:

Jackson is less likely to get injured than Oswalt, but he isn't anywhere near the pitcher. I don't think Jackson's that good, and without Duncan, I wouldn't want him back.

I'd rather have him than Westbrook or Lohse, but they weren't going to dump either one of those salaries to keep Jackson.

 

2/04/2012 12:55 pm  #9


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

JV wrote:

Now that the Nats have signed Jackson they are "aggressively" shopping Lannan. This is a 27-yo lefty with very decent stats who will earn $5 mill this year and won't hit free agency until after 2013. I'd love to see the Cards come up with a way to add him but they probably don't have the right mix of prospects for a low-risk offer unless Washington is looking for relievers.

Lannan seems like the kind of guy who could have really flourished under Duncan.
It is me, or have all of Duncan's reclamation projects been righties? Just going off the top of my head, I can't think of a lefty he's risen from the dead.
(I realize the two sentences in this post are in opposition to each other, but the second thought popped into my head while I was writing down the first.)

 

2/04/2012 2:27 pm  #10


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

artie_fufkin wrote:

It is me, or have all of Duncan's reclamation projects been righties? Just going off the top of my head, I can't think of a lefty he's risen from the dead.

Nor can I, unless Ray King's 2004 season, or the fact that son Chris even had the chance to step on an MLB field at all, counts somehow.

 

2/04/2012 3:47 pm  #11


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

JV wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

It is me, or have all of Duncan's reclamation projects been righties? Just going off the top of my head, I can't think of a lefty he's risen from the dead.

Nor can I, unless Ray King's 2004 season, or the fact that son Chris even had the chance to step on an MLB field at all, counts somehow.

I like Chris Duncan.  I thought he was very usefull for about a season.  If he wouldnt have got hurt I could have seen him sticking around awhile.

 

2/04/2012 4:14 pm  #12


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

Chuck Finley pitched pretty well the second half of whatever season we acquired him. I don't remember though how he had been pitching before we acquired him. What about guys like Fassero or Fossas?  Did Duncan salvage them, or were they still pitching well?

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2/06/2012 9:10 am  #13


Re: Edwin Jackson to Nationals

Finley was fairly average before the Cardinals got him. 4.44 ERA. He was very bad in 2001.

 

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