alz wrote:

and now are banking their hopes on Flynn (Green Bay's backup, who Rodgers says can be a top 15 quarterback in the league.... can't wait for that...). They are in the Manning talks, but just dumped their best WR for punching some bitch in a club (again, this is a problem for Marshall... but Marshall is worth more than a pair of 3rd rounders, and if we had anything resembling a quarterback during his time here, his stats would have been off the damned charts....) so I can't see Manning really wanting to commit to a loser organization that nobody seems to want to sign with.

I dont think Flynn is a bad gamble but it is easy to look good as a QB when you are on the best roster in the league. 

Also Marshall needs to chill.  If he tries to hit on of these big midwestern girls he might have his handsfull.

APRTW wrote:

It isnt much better for the Vikings.

Au contrere, mon frer. The Vikings are two years removed from playing in the NFC championship game. The Raiders are 45-101 since they last played in a playoff game, and set a record by losing at least 11 games seven seasons in a row. There's no rebuilding. There's not even building. It's like trying to prop up a tool shed on stilts in the middle of a swamp. Only a complete idiot would stick with them after this decade of utter futility.

alz wrote:

But there's Bradford.... With everything wrong with the Rams, they have always had a QB that they expect greatness from. Whether it's acheived or not, the Rams went after Trent Green, landed an amazing find in Kurt Warner, had a pretty serviceable quarterback in Bulger (for a while at least), and then drafted Bradford number 1 overall. Sadly, I'm a quarterback guy. I love watching the passing game, although I'm a walking contradiction in that I hate the new rules against defensive hitting. To me I think that's kind of cheap.

There's also Fisher. Everything wrong with the Rams on the field can be directly pointed to Coaching and the Front Office. Well the Front office gave Fisher the keys to the kingdom, and control over personel as well as coaching. He's overhauling everything.

Lastly, you also have a pretty damned amazing set of NFL drafts coming. To go from 2 to 6 (four spots), you get the next two first round picks from Washington (of all teams), and you'll still have your own first rounders in the next 2 drafts as well. You also get a VERY HIGH ADDITIONAL second round pick (now with #2 and #6 in the second round) for this deal and Washington was high enough that is really right on par with a later 1st round pick. Aside from the ownership moving the franchise, there's very little negative aspect from St. Louis.

I wouldn't be shocked to see the Rams leave with another Lombardi trophy. There's a lot of success you can have over the next 2 drafts thanks to the RG3 deal, ESPECIALLY with Fisher running shit.

It all sounds good, but Bradford can't do anything from his back or throwing to a bunch of practice squad caliber receivers.  Hopefully Fisher improves things, but I remember that Spagnuolo was one of "can't-miss coordinators" when he came to St. Louis and promptly went 10-38.  And draft picks are only as good as the players selected.  The Rams' draft history sucks balls.  I know it wasn't this group, but the horrid draft history extends back about 3-4 coaches/GMs, so until I actually see production on the field, it means very little.

Combine all that with the likelihood that they move the franchise in 3 years, I'll be spending my football money in Columbia watching Mizzou play SEC football.

forsberg_us wrote:

The Rams' draft history sucks balls.  I know it wasn't this group, but the horrid draft history extends back about 3-4 coaches/GMs, so until I actually see production on the field, it means very little.

I am going to give Fisher the benefit of the doubt on this. He has never drafted a single player for the St. Louis Rams. He could have easily went another way with that number 2 pick. He could have traded Bradford, and used the #2 on RG3, and the Bradford returns to build the rest of the team. He believes that Bradford is a much better long term solution then RG3. Considering what other teams were willing to give him for RG3, it speaks volumes to me that he feels he has something better already under contract...

Bradford took a lot of sacks, but I think a premier wide receiver would lower that number more then a premier blocker would. You need 5 premier offensive lineman, a running back/fullback, and tight end to ensure excellent protection... You need 1-2 wide receivers who can get open to ensure your average OL only has to block for 2.5 - 3.5 seconds, instead of the 5+ they needed to before...

Now ... the counter is that an OL also greatly helps your running game, a WR doesn't add much to that. Or does it? If you have a WR out there that you are committing 1-2 defenders on, they are not sitting in the box.

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Well, in either event, I hope the Rams have some quality football to bring to the table. God fucking knows I'm not going to see it from Miami any time soon.

alz wrote:

Marshall was out with his wife in a night club environment until after 3:00 AM. Nothing good can come of this.........
I know it was way too goddamned late for him to be out clubbing.

What is "clubbing"?  Is it like on TV were they play a bunch of crappy hiphop music and dry hump eachother?  That just doesnt seem like something anyone over 25 should be allowed to do.  Surely not someone who is married, even if their wife is along.  And then if you get "clubbed" while "clubbing" shouldnt you have expected it.

"What is "clubbing"?

It used to be what Eskimo hunters did to baby seals until Bridget Bardot protested by threatening to do another one of her shitty softcore-porn-disguised-as-French-art movies, but I believe the politically-correct definition in the current vernacular is "out past your bedtime in an urban environment."

artie_fufkin wrote:

"What is "clubbing"?

It used to be what Eskimo hunters did to baby seals until Bridget Bardot protested by threatening to do another one of her shitty softcore-porn-disguised-as-French-art movies, but I believe the politically-correct definition in the current vernacular is "out past your bedtime in an urban environment."

I guess if it is a rural enviroment it would be called road tripping or bar hoping.

alz wrote:

Angry Dolphin fan just got angrier.

Welcome the newest Dolphin!!! WE SIGNED A QUARTERBACK!!!

--David "Punkass Bitch" Garrard....

Seriously, our front office needs to just walk away from the telephone....

Denver is probably fielding offers for Tebow. 
(grin) (grin) (grin)

{I'm probably not helping, am I?}

"Smith will likely go back to the 49ers."

If a guy stays with a team, he's not really part of a shuffle, now is he?
I'd like to read or hear what Elway's rationale is. Unless it's to accomplish a complete break from Tebow, signing Manning doesn't make a whole lot of long-term sense. This is Favre to the Jets, Part II. The Donkeys may win that crappy division next year, but the whole thing may backfire if Manning's spine explodes the first time he's hit in training camp.

APRTW wrote:

It is a large contract for an injury risk, aging QB.  However if you give manning a few good players and an o-line he will win some games.

They have a couple of nice pieces on defense, but their starting receivers right now are a return specialist and a former first round draft pick who had been a disappointment until he caught that touchdown pass in overtime against Pittsburgh. They have no tight ends of substance. The O-line is decent, and McGahee is coming off a nice year, but he turned 30 (check, please), so how much longer can he keep going on that reconstructed knee? Maybe they'll get something out of Moreno, but he's regressed since his rookie year.
Remember they were minus-90 last year. That was worse than the Browns. Absent salary cap considerations, I could have seen the Redskins making a play for Manning. The Jets would have made sense. Teams that are otherwise pretty good but awful at quarterback. But Denver seems like a move that mostly satisfies Elway's humungous ego, so he doesn't have to admit at cocktail parties that Tim Tebow is his starting quarterback.
Kansas City has the best defense in the division and made some upgrades to its offense. Eric Winston is a great sign for them. And they get the best running back in the division back from injury. Rivers can't possibly play as badly in San Diego as he did last year. And neither the Chiefs nor the Chargers has to play a first place schedule in 2012.

alz wrote:

It's the second time in as many days where I've raged at the injustice of an article enough to read comments and seen someone posting details that aren't covered in an article. The first was the White Neighborhood Watch Captain fatally shooting a 17 year old black resident armed with Arizona Iced Tea and a bag of Skittles. Later in the comments you read that cops have been quoted as having him say, "I screamed for someone to come help me, and nobody did." He was not charged, nor arrested. Much to the ire of the Yahoo News Group apparently... I have to ask why he wasn't arrested, and I have to assume it's because the police did not have enough evidence to arrest him for a crime. Whether that's because the entire police force is nothing but white racists, or because there are details I wasn't privy to that are being omitted is the guess there, and I'm moving with the latter. I can build a situation where the guy shouldn't have allowed a close confrontation to occur at all, rather stayed in his car. However he made that mistake, and if there was assault, and he was getting smashed with a full can of Ice Tea (which is like a 40)... I can see the gun coming into play, the unfortunate shooting, and no arrest happening too. Which story is right? No idea, but I can't rush to judgement.

I'm now approaching the "rush to judgment" stage, this guy is a fucking asshole, and was told by the 911 dispatch not to pursue anyone. He disobeyed this, went after the kid (thus in my eyes eliminating any fucking possibility of self-defense, but it's not quite so clear in Florida law. There it's apparently totally cool to go look for a confrontation, shoot the other fucking guy, and claim self defense as a result of the confrontation).

I'll be taking my ex-wife to Florida if you need me...

I shouldn't but I take some small measure of relief in the fact that this asshole is Hispanic decent, and not white. I do not want any type of association with this guy, racial or otherwise...