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Michael Wacha, RHP, Texas A&M.
9-1, 2.06 era, 2 cgs, 1 sho, 113.1 ip, 116 K, 20 bb
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James Ramsey, CF, Florida State
.385/13/55 1.203 OPS. 10 steals in 16 attempts
Hart just said "He doesn't have one big tool that sticks out at you." So don't expect Larry Doby.
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The Red Sox just wasted a first round pick.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
James Ramsey, CF, Florida State
.385/13/55 1.203 OPS. 10 steals in 16 attempts
Hart just said "He doesn't have one big tool that sticks out at you." So don't expect Larry Doby.
His reputation must get around. From ESPN
"Ramsey is a performer that's short on tools, but there's enough here to be a low-end everyday player. He has good bat speed and bat head awareness in a line-drive stroke. Ramsey has been a performer everywhere he's gone, including the Cape Cod League, and has average raw power that could hit 15-18 homers in the big leagues. He has a thick frame but is an above-average runner with great instincts that play up in the field and on the bases. Some teams think he could stick in center while others think he fits in right field, where his solid-average arm will play. He's already 22 as a college senior but could go straight to Hi-A and move quickly."
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forsberg_us wrote:
artie_fufkin wrote:
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Did either of them sign a personal services contract?
Franklin has to do all of Moz's laundry and shine his shoes, along with some "light housekeeping." But he has to wear a French maid's outfit and answer to "Yvette."
My understanding is that Franklin served in a somewhat similar role during his playing days. From what I've been told, Franklin was Moz's mole in the clubhouse. All the time we thought Larussa and Duncan were saving Franklin's job, it was actually Moz.
Funny part of the story is that I was told after they finally released Franklin, Moz approached Carpenter about keeping him "informed" about what was happening in the clubhouse. I guess he thought that Carpenter's poor start to the season and contract status would make him more willing. Carpenter reportedly threatened to kick Moz's ass.
I haven't been watching all night, but anyone notice who's making the draft announcements for the Cardinals in the Supplemental Round?
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forsberg_us wrote:
forsberg_us wrote:
artie_fufkin wrote:
Franklin has to do all of Moz's laundry and shine his shoes, along with some "light housekeeping." But he has to wear a French maid's outfit and answer to "Yvette."My understanding is that Franklin served in a somewhat similar role during his playing days. From what I've been told, Franklin was Moz's mole in the clubhouse. All the time we thought Larussa and Duncan were saving Franklin's job, it was actually Moz.
Funny part of the story is that I was told after they finally released Franklin, Moz approached Carpenter about keeping him "informed" about what was happening in the clubhouse. I guess he thought that Carpenter's poor start to the season and contract status would make him more willing. Carpenter reportedly threatened to kick Moz's ass.I haven't been watching all night, but anyone notice who's making the draft announcements for the Cardinals in the Supplemental Round?
Does the placard say "Yvette?"
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I just saw Keith Law on televsion for the first time. He's even less impressive live than he is in print.
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As a Pac-10 guy, I assume you've seen plenty of our 1st Supplemental Pick.
The Cardinals continuing their trend of favoring players who have had success in the Cape Cod League. Piscotty won the CCL batting title last season. Ramsey's bio also mentioned success in the CCL.
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Stephen Piscotty, 3B, Stanford
.318/5/55 .861 OPS 11 errors/.908 fielding percentage in 57 games. Also made 12 appearances on the mound with a 6-2 record and 1 save.
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forsberg_us wrote:
As a Pac-10 guy, I assume you've seen plenty of our 1st Supplemental Pick.
The Cardinals continuing their trend of favoring players who have had success in the Cape Cod League. Piscotty won the CCL batting title last season. Ramsey's bio also mentioned success in the CCL.
Unfortunately, my cable system dropped FSN Pacific on Jan. 1 and I didn't see much Pac 12 baseball (or basketball) this year. Followed it mostly on Gametracker.
The Cape Cod League is a wood bat league, so college players who put up offensive numbers garner a lot of attention. Most of the parks - except for Orleans, and supposedly Wareham, though Wareham is one I've never been to because it's on the other side of the canal and my dad won't cross the bridge anymore except for births and deaths - are considered big parks, and there's heavy air all summer long down there.
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Patrick Wisdom, INF, St. Mary's
.262/9/24
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The Cubs just wasted a pick on Paul Blackburn. Unless they offer him a prince's fortune, he's going to be starting at Arizona State next spring.
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Pick #59 is a high school catcher from Texas. I'm Sgt. Schultz on this one.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
James Ramsey, CF, Florida State
.385/13/55 1.203 OPS. 10 steals in 16 attempts
Hart just said "He doesn't have one big tool that sticks out at you." So don't expect Larry Doby.His reputation must get around. From ESPN
"Ramsey is a performer that's short on tools, but there's enough here to be a low-end everyday player. He has good bat speed and bat head awareness in a line-drive stroke. Ramsey has been a performer everywhere he's gone, including the Cape Cod League, and has average raw power that could hit 15-18 homers in the big leagues. He has a thick frame but is an above-average runner with great instincts that play up in the field and on the bases. Some teams think he could stick in center while others think he fits in right field, where his solid-average arm will play. He's already 22 as a college senior but could go straight to Hi-A and move quickly."
15 HRs is pretty good out of CF if that is the postion they are projecting him at.
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The Cardinlas first round draft picks have been seen as solid picks since Kozma. 2008 Wallace, 2009 Miller, 2010 Cox, 2011 Wong. How did this years first round turn out? Is there anyone the nation media sees as a top prospect?
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APIAD wrote:
The Cardinlas first round draft picks have been seen as solid picks since Kozma. 2008 Wallace, 2009 Miller, 2010 Cox, 2011 Wong. How did this years first round turn out? Is there anyone the nation media sees as a top prospect?
Just going by what I heard last night, Wacha's ceiling is a middle of the rotation stater. Ramsey supposedly compares to Skippy. He's got intangibles. I guess he graduated with a 4.0, albeit with a major in Swamp Reclamation and a minor in making necklaces out of beer can pull tabs. (I made the last part up). It was mentioned both are highly signable.
I think one of the talking heads mentioned Wisdom's future may be as a catcher. The high school kid they picked supposedly has a cannon for an arm.
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The Cardinals drafted Tim Tebow with their 2nd selection
Scouts have called Ramsey the Tim Tebow of Florida State baseball for his leadership and strong Christian faith. Ramsey wore the captain’s "C" on his Seminoles jersey, the first player longtime Florida State coach Mark Martin had designated for that honor in his coaching career.
"I’ve always been a fan of Tim’s, just being a man of God, first of all," Ramsey said. "You wouldn’t describe my college experience as very conventional. And that’s the way Tim lived his life.
"There were always people who said he couldn’t play quarterback. He couldn’t be All-(Southeastern Conference). He couldn’t win a national championship. He couldn’t lead a lot of people to Christ."
"I can delight in my inabilities and let God take over. The labels put on me don’t affect me. I’m a pretty intrinsically motivated person."
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Here's a more complete analysis of each of the 5 picks
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artie_fufkin wrote:
APIAD wrote:
The Cardinlas first round draft picks have been seen as solid picks since Kozma. 2008 Wallace, 2009 Miller, 2010 Cox, 2011 Wong. How did this years first round turn out? Is there anyone the nation media sees as a top prospect?
Just going by what I heard last night, Wacha's ceiling is a middle of the rotation stater. Ramsey supposedly compares to Skippy. He's got intangibles. I guess he graduated with a 4.0, albeit with a major in Swamp Reclamation and a minor in making necklaces out of beer can pull tabs. (I made the last part up). It was mentioned both are highly signable.
I think one of the talking heads mentioned Wisdom's future may be as a catcher. The high school kid they picked supposedly has a cannon for an arm.
This isnt exciting to me at all. They drafted one guy who, if everything goes well will be Kyle Loshe and another who will be a fourth outfielder. I expected more out of first round picks. The ceiling over the last few years has been aces and middle of the order everyday players. Sure half of those will fall through but at least the potential was there.
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Admittedly I follow very little college baseball or pre-draft information, but it seemed to me that they reverted back to their old philosophy of drafting high floor, low ceiling players. Then again, with all the new rules imposed on spending and the draft, it's difficult to say whether this was a foolish or smart strategy.
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The spending thing I forgot about. I dont really know and likely wouldnt understand the new rules. However I do remember talk about them changing the draft. Maybe that is why they had to pick low valued players. I was wanting to see them stock the system with several nice prospect since they had a handfull of first round picks.
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Again, I know very little about these guys, so I'm not suggesting I'm an expert. But from what I've read, the pitcher may have some upside. Consensus seemed to be that he was pretty good value where they picked him and that he should project somewhere between a #2 and #4 starting pitcher.
The third guy they picked, Piscotty, sounded a lot like Brett Wallace to me. Good college bat, uncertain as to what defensive position he might ultimately play. If nothing else, if he tears up minor league pitching he could be a future trade chit.
They didn't dive into the high school player pool which is where a lot of high risk/reward comes from, but with the new spending rules, maybe that was smart.
Who knows? It'll be a while before we know how they really did. I don't remember anyone being all that thrilled when they drafted a college second baseman, but it looks like maybe they did OK with Kolten Wong. I just hope they didn't take a handful of Clayton Mortensens.
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A draft like this is sometimes necessary when you've spent the past couple of years focusing on high-risk/high-reward players. The farm is pretty tapped out in terms of guys who could be counted on in the next two years.
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The feeling I got when Wong was drafted was that it wasnt splashy but still solid.
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"Keith Law, ESPN.com: “I get the appeal of a college senior in this draft system, where saving 30 percent of a pick's bonus can allow you to grab a more expensive player somewhere else. But the Cardinals burned a first-round pick on Ramsay, a low-upside college performer (against players nearly all younger than his age of 22.5) whose ceiling might be fourth outfielder as he lacks the power to profile in a corner. Taking him with better college position players like (Deven) Marrero and (Richie) Shaffer still on the board makes no sense to me.â€
Further proof Law has no idea what he's talking about. If you were going to build a major league shortstop, you'd probably take some parts from Deven Marrero. The problem with Deven Marrero is he has to actually play, and his career at ASU has thus far been a disappointment. He was supposed to be Dustin Pedroia. He's been Donnie Hill (you have to really know ASU baseball to get that reference, but it's a good one).
I'm usually the biggest proponent of ASU guys, but I posted last night that the Red Sox wasted a pick on Marrero, before I read Law's analysis.
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Here is what futureredbird said to start off their blog on Ramsey;
With the brand new rules in place with the Major League Baseball’s new Collective Barganing Agreement, each team is held to a certain amount of money for their 1st through 10th round selections. These rules do very little to help the teams at the top get the best players, but if they do anything, they elevate the level of the college seniors who have little leverage and are forced to sign at what the team selecting them offers. And since teams are on a specifically tight budget, these players help balance the budget to allow the team to pick more expensive players with their other picks. If it makes zero sense to you, you are not the only one. With that introduction, I give you the Cardinals 2nd first round pick at number 23 overall, James Ramsey, senior Outfielder, Florida State. More of me and the scouting reports are after the jump.
On the broadcast, MLB Network compared Ramsey to: Skip Schumaker. (Comps are dumb and rarely close, but that one hurts.) And I say this trying to be well though out and not over-reacting to this pick: Ramsey is taken at 23 only because he’s an easy sign as a college senior, he was not the best talent available. He put up good numbers in the Cape Cod League (Cape Cod Alert!) and hits for average in college. He doesn’t project as a CF, but instead a RF without much power (or a 2nd baseman, not sure where anyone is getting that from). Oh well, enough of my rant. Along to the scouting reports