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8/06/2012 8:40 am  #1


Alz been quite quiet!

Sorry guys, going through a divorce on a marriage that's been shit for about a year. It's going to be fast, and I'm relatively okay, but it's definitely contributed to my mood and snappiness. I won't let that stand as the lone excuse for my rage-ing out, I should have better control than I have had, but it certainly hasn't helped.

I'm still reading, just not much to say. I went to the game Saturday, and Wainright was pretty impressive. Anyway, the first thing that needs to be stated is that I am okay, actually doing much better than I was while married emotionally. I'm going to be even better. I'm certainly going to be happier.

Keep posting, I'm quiet, but still here, and still reading!

8/06/2012 9:28 am  #2


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Keep your head up.  Everyones life is complicated mess to some degree.  Things always turn around.

8/06/2012 10:29 am  #3


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......hang in there

8/06/2012 12:27 pm  #4


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Good to hear from you. It sounds like you have the right attitude toward this.

8/06/2012 1:46 pm  #5


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Yeah, it's wierd, I thought I'd be crushed by this, I was on my first marriage. After about 3 days though, I began to wonder why on earth I cared so much, and came to realize I wasn't losing much of anything that didn't need to get out of my life to begin with.

I'm really okay, which scares me. Found I'm a lot happier, and a lot more tolerant of about everything. Ever see someone laugh their way through a divorce before?

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9/03/2012 2:20 pm  #6


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Sorry to hear about it, Alz.  My first marriage ended after about 8 years.  We had no kids and little stuff, but I just told her to take whatever she wanted and to let me know what I got. It saved a lot of hassle.  No, 21 years later, I can't imagine what material goods I might have gotten out of that divorce that would have been worth trading the reasonably amicable separation we have now.

9/03/2012 5:15 pm  #7


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Max wrote:

Sorry to hear about it, Alz.  My first marriage ended after about 8 years.  We had no kids and little stuff, but I just told her to take whatever she wanted and to let me know what I got. It saved a lot of hassle.  No, 21 years later, I can't imagine what material goods I might have gotten out of that divorce that would have been worth trading the reasonably amicable separation we have now.

Good to see you back, Max.

9/03/2012 6:20 pm  #8


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artie_fufkin wrote:

Max wrote:

Sorry to hear about it, Alz.  My first marriage ended after about 8 years.  We had no kids and little stuff, but I just told her to take whatever she wanted and to let me know what I got. It saved a lot of hassle.  No, 21 years later, I can't imagine what material goods I might have gotten out of that divorce that would have been worth trading the reasonably amicable separation we have now.

Good to see you back, Max.

Seconded!

9/04/2012 7:43 pm  #9


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Thanks.  I'm not really sure how 'back' I am though.

For starters, my project from last year is totally fucked up.  I am basically a whistleblower who is unprotected by any whistleblower law against retaliation (American working for British company in Indonesia . . . ).  So, the owner of the company I was consulting for decided not to pay me 38% of my yearly wage, to blame me for his legal and ethical shortcomings, and to subtly threaten me if any of this causes the project financial loss.  He claims the program will air on UK TV this Fall, which will cause a big problem because I guarantee it is deeply flawed.  His bizarre behavior led me to "snakes in suits" and the whole literature on corporate psychopaths, and I am as convinced as a dispassionate and skeptical scientist can be that he is one, and that he scores a perfect 16 out of 16 on the Hare test for nonviolent psychopathy.  This has had me in a very bad mood since things started going weird at the end of March 2011, but as it is deeply connected with the animal, field site, and network in which I have built expertise since 1993, it is not a simple matter from which to walk away.  Basically, nearly twenty years of work and my whole career have been fucked over by this psycho, and I am the sort who absolutely will proceed with the process of proper reporting.  So the unstoppable force is going to meet the immovable object; but he has all the money, lawyers, and connections such that the mass of the unstoppable force is several orders of magnitude greater than that of the immovable object, and I am likely to get crushed.  The bottom line is that I'm not a lot of fun to be around right now and will probably be bankrupt, literally, and starting a new career from scratch within 6-12 months. 

Secondly, I was a huge fan of La Russa / Jocketty Cardinals baseball.  I was pretty skeptical of Mozeliak during the La Russa / Mozeliak era, and after the debacle of last off-season, I am wholly convinced that I have a deep dislike of this new DeWitt/Mozeliak era.  I don't like how they do business and I think they are devaluing the Cardinal brand name, which has been carefully built over the past century.  It's not that I think all of their decisions have been bad.  For example, the business decision not to resign Pujols was probably wise, but the way they went about it over several years was just awful for me to behold, like Chinese water torture.  And indeed, I am gratified to see the Lohse signing is looking pretty fabulous at this point, and I take a little bit of pleasure in thinking of all the crow waiting to be eaten by Lohse's (and Mozeliak's) critics for that signing.  It's the way they do business that I have a deep dislike for.  So, I would be a distraction on this board.

But I did see Alz's post and wanted to wish him well.  I thank this board for helping me get over the guilt when my dog got hit by a car, more than six years ago now.  So, the camaraderie can be helpful.

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9/04/2012 11:03 pm  #10


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Pretend I am really really stupid, like mentally retarded stupid and tell me what you do for a living.

9/05/2012 7:53 am  #11


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APIAD wrote:

Pretend I am really really stupid, like mentally retarded stupid and tell me what you do for a living.

I could also use help understanding that, and you don't even need to pretend where I'm concerned.

Let me sweeten the pot by saying "Although I did criticize him once or twice, Kyle Lohse is a god".

9/05/2012 12:50 pm  #12


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. . . Thirdly, I was getting a little bit sensitive about all the joking that I thought I was smarter than the others on this board . . .

Like Mags, I am an academic.  Unlike Mags, I got into the field when maybe 1 PhD in 20 ever gets a permanent job, and got into a discipline that is far more impacted than law.  So, since leaving my last full-time academic position in Singapore in 2008, I have been scrounging on what is called "soft money", and most of our household income comes, in fact, from my wife's job as a cocktail waitress at an Indian casino.  My expertise is in the ecology, evolution, and conservation of primates, particularly in Southeast Asia.  So, last year a dream came true when a TV show I had been helping develop since . . . 2006, maybe . . . got picked-up.  But as is so often the case, be careful what you wish for.  The dream turned into a nightmare, when the executive producer decided to work behind my back to sow division between me and my network, and then ultimately to begin acting in illegal and unethical ways to get the footage he wanted.  My contract has a gag clause and indemnities, and stipulates UK jurisdiction.  So, I am in a bit of a bind; the UK lawyer I researched and contacted wants £600 to review my contract and send a letter.  I don't have that kind of money, and even if we did, replacing the '98 Odyssey with 267k miles that my wife drives to and from work each night is a higher priority for me.

One of the people on this board made a statement that really stayed with me, as we were all ridiculing Mark Mulder during one of his attempts to return from injury.  One of us, I can't remember who, said, "I can't believe what I am reading.   He is obviously injured."  The point being that we were saying he sucked, and a more compassionate voice was saying he was injured and doing what he was being asked to do.  Same thing with Lohse.  When he sucked, the fact was that he was injured and couldn't grip the ball properly.  If he had never gotten healthy, the contract would have been a bad deal, but i still would have supported Moz for making the deal because before the economic collapse, middle of the rotation pitchers (like Suppan) were commanding MORE than $40/4.  But as it turned out, Lohse got healthy, has proven to be a far better pitcher than I expected him to be, and Moz got a great deal.  I would be a bigger DeMoz fan if they had done more of that.

9/06/2012 9:41 am  #13


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Well I've been fairly quiet too. I signed the papers yesterday, and that's very sad, and I should get hugs from everyone..... But wait!!! It turns out my marriage ending grief lasted about a week, and I now think of it as Stockholme syndrome. It really was an awful last year. I will be final next week, the entire process taking 5 weeks. We've settled all of the assets, and she's moved out. I traded out a car that was in our names for a Jeep Liberty 4x4 SUV that I love. I put a towing package on it, and will be buying a john boat and trailer with next tax return. I realized I really love fishing, and it's been a great time killer.

I've went out and met a few gals, so far nothing more than friends, but that has been at my choosing. 4 dates, and 4 women who were really really hoping they would be more. Turns out I'm pretty picky and have no desire to rebound. Meeting another 2 ladies this weekend, and both have promise, very interesting ladies to talk with. Do not mourn for me, I'm actually doing quite well.

Max, It's awesome having you back here. Stay around, regardless of how heated things get here, we're all friends.

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9/06/2012 9:55 am  #14


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Good for you Alz.  Sounds like you're making a great recovery.  Also sounds like you're taking a wise approach socially.  I've never gone through a divorce, but I went through a couple of bad breakups.  Enjoy the rebound, but don't rush to immerse yourself in another relationship.

Most importantly, take care of yourself and enjoy the boat (once you get it).

9/06/2012 9:58 am  #15


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I am being careful, even good. Haven't even held hands with anyone, much less anything beyond. Sadly my standard for dating and sleeping with someone are not much different... I wish this was not the case sometimes, but it is what it is. I'm not sleeping with anyone I'm not attracted to, and not ever hammered enough when around a girl to lower that sleeping standard.

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9/06/2012 3:38 pm  #16


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Again, sorry to hear about your divorce, but experience shows that sometimes these things really are for the better, and either way the sadness will pass with time. 

I haven't been on the market for many years, and back then I would dive quickly into the art of rebounding.  But I am told that as you get older it is increasingly harder to make the girl go home.  So in your case prudence is probably a virtue.

On the other hand, if you go to her place, and if her place is far enough away, there's no way for her to follow you back.  Lemme know if you want to go to Indonesia and meet some nice Muslim women:

http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2009/06/jakarta-nightlife-tips-summary-of.html

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