One that should have made the list but did not was:

"On April 5, 1993, at Michigan's second consecutive NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship game, Chris Webber called a time-out with 11 seconds left in the game when his team, down 73–71, did not have any remaining, resulting in a technical foul that effectively clinched the game for North Carolina."

Oops.

APRTW wrote:

I dont have time to flip through them.  Is Kerry Robinson pinch hitting of Big Mac on there?

No. And I don't remember that one.

Refresh my memory . . .

BTW, it's perplexing that Tommy LaSorda's decision to pitch to Jack Clark isn't somewhere on that list, but it looks like the only city in the Midwest that exists is Chicago. And no one's apparently ever made a bad hockey decision ...

artie_fufkin wrote:

If you lived in New England in the '70s, the Giants were like Notre Dame. You loved them or you hated them

In that case they were not like Notre Dame.  EVERYONE hates Notre Dame.

"Is that how Giant Fans talk? Because if so I need friends that are Giants fans."

For whatever reason, Giants fans seem to be Yankees fans, and Jets fans tend to be Mets fans. Your rooting interest seems to stem from whether you were the bully in junior high school, or you got bullied. There are no geographical distinctions. The only geographical line in New York sports is between the Rangers and the Islanders. The closest thing to actual suicide is wearing an Islanders sweater in the blue seats at Madison Square Garden.

Max wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

BTW, it's perplexing that Tommy LaSorda's decision to pitch to Jack Clark isn't somewhere on that list, but it looks like the only city in the Midwest that exists is Chicago. And no one's apparently ever made a bad hockey decision ...

Journalism is about selling stuff, mostly the crap that advertisers advertise in the medium doing the journalling.  So, that list is about selling stuff, too.  What I noticed was how biased it was to the last 2 years.  Take home message: "our customers are stoopid, with extremely short memories."

I think we could make our own list, but I wish that you and the others would add more description to your events.  Even if it is only to copy-and-paste from Wikipedia, as I did.

I don't need no stinkin' Wikipedia. The Cardinals were down by one run in the top of the ninth in Game 6 of the '85 NLCS. Runners on second and third with two outs. LaSorda had the option to walk Clark and pitch to Van Slyke. Not only did he opt to pitch to Clark, Niedenfuer threw him a first-pitch fastball, which Clark clobbered to Ventura. Game, set, match ... See ya in Kansas City.

artie_fufkin wrote:

Max wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

BTW, it's perplexing that Tommy LaSorda's decision to pitch to Jack Clark isn't somewhere on that list, but it looks like the only city in the Midwest that exists is Chicago. And no one's apparently ever made a bad hockey decision ...

Journalism is about selling stuff, mostly the crap that advertisers advertise in the medium doing the journalling.  So, that list is about selling stuff, too.  What I noticed was how biased it was to the last 2 years.  Take home message: "our customers are stoopid, with extremely short memories."

I think we could make our own list, but I wish that you and the others would add more description to your events.  Even if it is only to copy-and-paste from Wikipedia, as I did.

I don't need no stinkin' Wikipedia. The Cardinals were down by one run in the top of the ninth in Game 6 of the '85 NLCS. Runners on second and third with two outs. LaSorda had the option to walk Clark and pitch to Van Slyke. Not only did he opt to pitch to Clark, Niedenfuer threw him a first-pitch fastball, which Clark clobbered to Ventura. Game, set, match ... See ya in Kansas City.

Wrong.  I'm not sure exactly what the count was but I do recall that Jack Clark had two strikes on him and he took an inside pitch that was very close and could easily have been called a strike.  He then drilled the next fastball way back into the left-field stands.  I don't recall if Ventura was playing third base in college or not but I'm sure he wasn't with the Dodgers.

After Clark hit the home run he swung a very wide swath toward the Cardinals dugout as he pitched his bat and game his teammates a look of satisfaction.

Anyone recall what you could read on LaSorda's lips when he was trying to decide whether to pitch to Clark or not?  Earlier that season, he had chosen to pitch to Van Slyke and Andy had beat him with a home run.

p.s.  The Ventura comment was a joke.  I've got the "America's Greatest Hits" CD. 

This time, you could very plainly read LaSorda animatedly saying, "Now do I walk him and pitch to that fucking Van Slyke?"  When the camera picked it up, Vin Scully and Joe Garagiola commented on it.  After the home run, Scully said, "Well I guess LaSorda got the answer to his question."

BTW, the Cards still had to shut down the Dodgers in the bottom of the ninth.

Last edited by Mags (11/15/2010 11:09 pm)

artie_fufkin wrote:

"Wrong.  I'm not sure exactly what the count was but I do recall that Jack Clark had two strikes on him and he took an inside pitch that was very close and could easily have been called a strike."

First pitch. I'm as certain of that as I am today is Tuesday.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198510160.shtml

Well, I'm not going to trust my memory of anything anymore.  For 25 years, I've had a guilty feeling about that home run, thinking that maybe Clark should have been called out on the pitch before.  Now that I've thought more about it, I think Scully's comment was "Well, Tommy LaSorda didn't have to wait long to get the answer to his question."

I'm not certain that today is Tuesday and I can't remember how to hook up a VCR anymore.  Otherwise, I'd probably look at my VHS tape (assuming it will still play -- which my wife says it won't) before accepting defeat.  But being wrong goes down a lot easier these days.

p.s.  I don't always accept encyclopedia-type data without question.  I've corrected several errors for the internet movie database and a couple on Wikipedia.  But further reflection on Scully's comments has destroyed any confidence I had in my original recollection.

Last edited by Mags (11/16/2010 9:37 am)

artie_fufkin wrote:

Is Tora Bora West a distinction of your own creation, or does Memphis have a lot of caves?

The risks of being shot are slightly higher here.

artie_fufkin wrote:

Mags wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Is Tora Bora West a distinction of your own creation, or does Memphis have a lot of caves?

The risks of being shot are slightly higher here.

I'll bet you can recognize Taliban quicker there than in Afghanistan though. It's no secret radical Muslims love Elvis.

The Taliban and I are on good terms.  I help them pick out the feminists.