Yes, shapely.

Coincidentally, a facebook friend posted something about Tough Mudders, and the photos looked a bit like that.

Max wrote:

and FWIW, the picture of Tavares in the article, unfortunately, gave him the appearance of a having a Reggie Jackson type personality. Pujols was an amazingly low-profile, humble guy, considering the level of his accomplishments.  You go telling a flashy young kid that he's the next Albert Pujols and it could go to his head.

True, untill he started doing gods work.

APIAD wrote:

Max wrote:

and FWIW, the picture of Tavares in the article, unfortunately, gave him the appearance of a having a Reggie Jackson type personality. Pujols was an amazingly low-profile, humble guy, considering the level of his accomplishments.  You go telling a flashy young kid that he's the next Albert Pujols and it could go to his head.

True, untill he started doing gods work.

First off, I only tabulate that opinion up til the end of the 2011 season.  After that it was going to get ugly, a train wreck in excruciating slow motion.

The "God's work" stuff was hard to listen to, but I hate that stuff from anybody.  I don't think it means that people who talk like that are not necessarily humble, it's just a result of having a weird world view that about 80% of humanity possesses.  It's like claiming that a rape baby is God's will.  Like, WTF?  But a lot of people think like that.

artie_fufkin wrote:

"It's like claiming that a rape baby is God's will."

I thought the female body had a way to shut down its womb in the event of rape.

Only "legitimate" rapes.

windwalker wrote:

Need some AYEs and NAYs... middle infield is our glaring need for next year. Perusing the FA options... in order of my preference...

AYE or NAY:

1. Placido Polanco
2. Freddy Sanchez
3. Maicer Izturis
4. Marco Scutaro
5. Ronny Cedeno. Just kidding.
6. The Riot
7. Mark DeRosa
8. Bill Hall
9. Miguel Cairo
10. Adam *BLUUUUUUUH* errr, pardon me... Adam Kennedy

Nay

windwalker wrote:

ROFLMAO... Tki, there's a bug in your flaming macro. ROGER C*deno, not RONNY

Try typing in K i p  W e l l s and see what you get ...
And if you even try to write Esteban Yan, your machine starts to smoke.

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forsberg_us wrote:

Garcia threw from a mound today and reported no discomfort.  Team states that surgery won't be necessary and that Garcia is expected to be able to participate in a normal off-season workout

Cardinal-speak to English translation: Garcia returns after the 2014 All-Star Break.

rec.

yeah, i'm really quite curious about what's going on here.  isn't he extended already?  why not get the surgery now and work your way back into contention in time for the next contract?

"i'm really quite curious about what's going on here."

Your mistake is ascribing logic to a situation involving the Cardinals' medical staff, Max.

ahh . . . I see.  I suppose it's worth seeing if he can rest and return to form then.  On the other hand, there is an impressive list of pitchers who had the surgery and prospered.  Given 2012, my hunch is that it will be similar, but a bit worse, and eventually they'll have to operate and he either gets better or doesn't.  Too bad.  I was rooting for him.

forsberg_us wrote:

Yeah, I don't think frayed labrums magically heal. It's just a matter of time.

I am trying not to just think badly of every injury a Cardinals player gets but the story the PD has up is troubling.

http://www.stltoday.com/print/sports-section/mozeliak-modifies-his-winter-wish-list/article_73c1f09f-2a0a-5a9d-b534-b79f2ec55745.html

First off Furcal wasnt that good in 2012.  He had a really good first month and then fell of a cliff, burst in to flames and then drown in a river. 

Secondly, so what, Garcia threw off the mound.  I know they have plenty of other guys to attempt to fill his shoes and they are not going shopping for starting pitching.  Still how many times did they tell us Mulder had a positive side session?

This is goofy. Furcal's situation has got everything to do with his contract. If they had signed him to a 3-year deal last off-season, he would have had Tommy John in August.
Replacing a baseball player's UCL is the anatomical equivalent of a timing belt change these days. You can reasonably expect a player who has gone through Tommy John to at least resemble his former self within a year. That would have put Furcal on a timetable to return in August 2013 ... two months before his contract with the Cardinals expires.
A bum shoulder is entirely different. There are no guarantees. Look at Johan Santana. He's never going to be the same pitcher again. I understand their reticence to put Garcia under the knife, but unless they try Fors' suggestion and exhume Mr. Miyagi, surgery seems inevitable.

"This team does not eat Adam Kennedy sized mistakes."

LMAO!!!  You do remember that the team released Adam Kennedy before his contract expired, don't you?

APIAD wrote:

Would it have taken Furcal as long to recover as a pitcher?

Good question. I know the recovery period for a pitcher coming off TJ is supposed to be one calendar year, and two years before he reverts completely to pre-surgery form. I assume it might be shorter for a position player.

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