A Rangers source on free agent pitcher Kyle Lohse: “We are not going to sign Kyle Lohse. I can’t be clearer than that.”

Ouch!!!

forsberg_us wrote:

Only 5 days to the Bar Mitzvah.

The Kyle Lohse countdown knows no end.

For the money we've laid out, I could have started my own team with Lohse as my ace.
 

forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Only 5 days to the Bar Mitzvah.

The Kyle Lohse countdown knows no end.

For the money we've laid out, I could have started my own team with Lohse as my ace.
 

Maybe you can get Mark Prior to serve as the valet parking attendant. A peace offering to the Cub fan neighbor, if you will. 

 
Did the Reds cut him already?
You know, Bartman might be available for that duty. What else would he be doing these days? Can you imagine the look on my neighbor's face if he pulled into the parking garage and had to hand his keys over to Bartman?

Last edited by artie_fufkin (3/11/2013 10:56 am)

Boras appears to have completely misread the market for Kyle Lohse--again. 

Every team is utilizing advanced metrics to predict and project performance. Lohse had a terrific season last year, but regression to the mean is likely and diminished performance with age is equal if not more likely. Lohse was never going to get a 5 year deal (as it was reported Boras was seeking). He'll be lucky to get the 3 year deal he's seeking now. 

realistically, lohse deserves $48/4.  He'll get it if they are patient.

forsberg_us wrote:

I suppose you never say never, but the Rangers response to Boras' 3 year demand was to sign Derek Lowe instead.

FWIW, today is the 5 year anniversary of the date Lohse first signed with the Cardinals. 

 

The Rangers signed Derek Lowe for three years?!? I hope the contract includes time off so Lowe can visit his grandchildren on weekends.
 

OK, I wrote that poorly.

The Rangers inquired about signing Lohse when Martin Perez broke his forearm.  Boras demanded 3 years for Lohse.  The Rangers said "no thanks," and instead signed Derek Lowe to a minor league deal to fill the spot.

Maybe they should call it the "Lohse Rule"?

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/kyle-lohse-antsy-for-job-scott-boras-adam-laroche-michael-bourn-jeff-francoeur-rick-porcello-zack-greinke-angel-pagan-031713

Again, it’s all hypothetical — Lohse could sign with a club tomorrow, and this discussion would be over. But if the new draft-pick compensation rules hurt a team as well as a player, perhaps Major League Baseball would be more inclined to allow sign-and-trades in the future.

The free agent would stand a better chance of getting market value. His previous team would get a pick. His new team would keep its pick. And the team that brokers the trade would receive appropriate talent in return.

MLB isn't going to allow sign-and-trades any time soon. Just not going to happen. 

As for Lohse, what are the odds that he's on a major league roster by Monday? That's one week to go before the season. If a team signs Lohse then they might not even be able to use him right away. Lohse might be having his own spring training but there's no substitute for facing live hitters. 

forsberg_us wrote:

I have a bad feeling the Cardinals are going to lose that pick.  Since no one seems willing to meet Boras' demands, I suspect he's already told Lohse that it's in his best interest to wait until after the draft and see what happens to his market once the draft pick compensation is gone.

Sounds wise to me.  Lohse might be a guinea pig, but I wouldn't be surprised if something along the lines of $40/4, or $36/3 were offered by July.

If loshe gets a 3 year deal i will literally shit myself.  At this point he will be luck to get a two year deal.  Maybe a one year deal with an option for a second.  Who really wants to sign a pitcher nobody wants midseason to a muti year deal?

forsberg_us wrote:

Boras apparently told Peter Gammons that Lohse will not wait until June to sign a contract.

That would be good news for the Cardinals.

boras also probably told loshe he would be shopping for a house right now not selling one.  Maybe loshe should try playing over seas.
 

forsberg_us wrote:

Boras apparently told Peter Gammons that Lohse will not wait until June to sign a contract.

That would be good news for the Cardinals.

If true, then he won't get 3 or 4 years.  My ballpark guesstimates going into this were that he might receive offers along these lines, give or take a million or two:

$40/4
$36/3
$30/2

If he holds out until midseason, I still think he'll get that.