Wait, why did Jay step BACK on a ball hit 140 feet?

I can't stay awake much longer. Shaun Marcum is as dreadful to watch as Erik Bedard. 

Keith Hernandez says he's a beloved figure in St. Louis.

Hopefully Matheny knows now that Maness is a mop-up guy. FFS.

tkihshbt wrote:

I'm not watching. Adams was pulled for Wiggy? 

 
Yes. And the Mets deflty pitched around Wiggy because they apparently wanted no part of him.
I know the Cardinals may never lose a game again, but I thought MM was crazy to bring in his only lefty to retire a guy who's hitting .165.
Rosenthal had a good inning. He caught Wright looking at a wicked 3-2 curve at the knees.

Great starting pitching sure covers up a lot of other holes. 

Miller was screwed a bit by the ump last night.

APIAD wrote:

I havent got a chance to watch much.  What i have seen has looked pretty good.  Hard to argue with results.  This board is pretty negative.  i mean artie hates beltran and he leads the team in ops.  I am nkt saying he is real motivated but to hate him is a bit much.  I do think the points about mm are valid.  This team is winning despite him.  Any manager could do this good of job.  Rolling out the same lineup, throwing ur starters till they bleed from the ears and having the whole bullpen warm up at once isnt that hard.

Maybe I don't hate Beltran, but I see a supremely-talented player who most of the time seems satisfied with being very good instead of consistenty striving for greatness. J.D. Drew got creamed by the fan base for not playing hard because he was hurt all the time, but Beltran gets praised for his grace and courage for doing pretty much the same thing. 
I know everyone here watched the 2004 NLCS, and other than Roger Clemens choking in Game 7, the lasting impression I got from that series was the sport was invented so Carlos Beltran could play it.
 

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tkihshbt wrote:

Wait, why did Jay step BACK on a ball hit 140 feet?

Dunno.  But all I saw of Ankiel on his first night back was that tremendous read and break on Beltran's line drive to the gap, robbing him of a double.  I see he had a jack last night.  Maybe we can get him back?

Max wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

Wait, why did Jay step BACK on a ball hit 140 feet?

Dunno.  But all I saw of Ankiel on his first night back was that tremendous read and break on Beltran's line drive to the gap, robbing him of a double.  I see he had a jack last night.  Maybe we can get him back?

To pitch?

he is going to be one of those guys who if he keeps getting playing time might push 15 to 20hrs and end up jobsless next year.  
 

Last edited by APIAD (5/16/2013 10:40 am)

I am with AP on the JD Drew comparisons.   Drew earned it because he came to the league acting as though his talent priveleged him to a large pay day, and a cushy schedule that allowed many days off for PMS, yeast infactions, and womens' issues.

I remember the 2004 NLCS for Beltran's disruptive presence, at the plate, on the bases, in the field.  The man was a game-changer.  

I think he is old an broken down now, and am concerned that he'll go A-Rod on us at any moment, and see any production at all out of him as a gift that never needs repayment.

artie_fufkin wrote:

"idk how far i would go with the jd drew comparison."

Beltran is obviously more accomplished, but it shouldn't really make a difference. A guy is out there either giving 100 percent or he's not. Look at what happened in Monday's game. Instead of running to the spot where he can catch Murphy's line drive, he loafs, loses the ball in the sun and then can't adjust. If Drew had done that, people would have been calling for his public execution. Beltran half-asses it and the dipshits in the TV booth make excuses for him, and then they go back slobbering all over themselves about how he never wastes an ounce of effort.

ill agree with the booth being homers.  It is like they try to convice us we didnt just see something.  Idk why.