forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

The Cubs picked a pitcher from Mizzou who went 2-9 this season. I thought Mizzou dropped baseball.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious. Mizzou is making a $4M upgrade in their stadium with the new SEC money. 

Nah, I was just giving you shit.
 

artie_fufkin wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

I would love to see Austin Wilson make it to our 2nd round pick. We drafted him in 2010 and tried to convince him to give up his commitment. He was 1st round talent in 2010. 

 
You jinxed it. He's a beast.

I'm on a roll tonight aren't I?

Another opinion on Gonzalez

"The Cardinals add to their pitching riches with a high-probabilty, low-ceiling lefty in Gonzales, who is a good athlete and could swim through the system quickly. The joke in ESPN Draft Room West is that whoever the Cardinals take will be a star in a few years, so it really doesn't matter. Gonzales may not be that level of an arm, but the chances he gets to St. Louis inside of two years is good. 

The Cardinals have another pick at No. 28 as compensation for free agent Kyle Lohse. Gonzales is a potential under-slot selection that could help the club go bigger at that spot. -- Churchill 

and Kaminsky

"The Cardinals obviously read my draft preview mention that left-handed pitching was not one of their strengths, as they've taken two of the better ones in this year's class. Kaminsky has an outstanding feel for pitching and could move very quickly in the St. Louis system. There isn't a ton of projection, but the Cardinals now have two of the "safer" southpaws in the 2013 class. -- Crawford"

artie_fufkin wrote:

Screw the Padres. Dustin Peterson is going to be at ASU in the fall.

If it means anything, he's still wearing his ASU shirt. 

Ziomek is good pickup for the Tigers. He's probably closer to Ted Lilly than Detweiler.

forsberg_us wrote:

57) Oscar Mercado- SS

Reading a lot of mixed reviews. Consensus is his glove is a plus and he'll stay at SS, but questions about his bat. 

 
Seems like they drafted for the position rather than the player.

artie_fufkin wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Think the Cardinals would have taken Williams if he'd have been there at 57

Meh. This was kind of a rebuilding year for ASU, and Williams was supposed to be the veteran presence, but he wasn't anything special.
 

I meant Devin Williams, the high school kid from Hazelwood West (St. Louis suburb)

forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Think the Cardinals would have taken Williams if he'd have been there at 57

Meh. This was kind of a rebuilding year for ASU, and Williams was supposed to be the veteran presence, but he wasn't anything special.
 

I meant Devin Williams, the high school kid from Hazelwood West (St. Louis suburb)

He reminded me of that kid they picked a couple of years ago. Jenkins?
 

Was Jenkins the kid they talked out of playing college football? Maybe at Auburn?

forsberg_us wrote:

ESPN on Gonzalez

"Gonzales is a highly polished command-and-control lefty with excellent secondary stuff, great athleticism, and a barely-average fastball. He's mostly 89-90 but will work across the 87-91 range, locating it extremely well, especially down in the zone -- he hadn't allowed a homer all year as of April 28. His changeup is plus, one of the best in this draft, at 77-79, fooling hitters more on arm speed than on action, and his curveball is average to a tick above at 75-77 with varying angles.

His feel for pitching is outstanding, and he can get hitters out with all three pitches with no trouble turning a lineup over. He's one of the best hitters on Gonzaga as well, among the team leaders in average and OBP, and would probably be drafted in the top five or six rounds as a position player, falling mostly because he only shows power in BP. His delivery is very simple and easy to repeat, leading to the plus command.


Gonzales' main drawback is his lack of projection -- he's listed at 6-foot-1, 185 pounds, which is likely generous, and will probably pitch with less velocity when he's going every fifth day. You're probably getting a fourth starter, a league-average guy or slightly worse, but one who's very high-probability and could pitch in the majors this fall or next spring."

Pretty unimpressive.  Salad tossing lefty!
 

APIAD wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

 I've read Kevin Franklin is using his ASU commitment as leverage. He supposedly doesn't have a defensive position, and the Reds don't use a DH.

Really?

-adam dunn
 

That's unfair. Dunn used to pick up the ball when it stopped rolling.
 

APIAD wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

ESPN on Gonzalez

"Gonzales is a highly polished command-and-control lefty with excellent secondary stuff, great athleticism, and a barely-average fastball. He's mostly 89-90 but will work across the 87-91 range, locating it extremely well, especially down in the zone -- he hadn't allowed a homer all year as of April 28. His changeup is plus, one of the best in this draft, at 77-79, fooling hitters more on arm speed than on action, and his curveball is average to a tick above at 75-77 with varying angles.

His feel for pitching is outstanding, and he can get hitters out with all three pitches with no trouble turning a lineup over. He's one of the best hitters on Gonzaga as well, among the team leaders in average and OBP, and would probably be drafted in the top five or six rounds as a position player, falling mostly because he only shows power in BP. His delivery is very simple and easy to repeat, leading to the plus command.


Gonzales' main drawback is his lack of projection -- he's listed at 6-foot-1, 185 pounds, which is likely generous, and will probably pitch with less velocity when he's going every fifth day. You're probably getting a fourth starter, a league-average guy or slightly worse, but one who's very high-probability and could pitch in the majors this fall or next spring."

Pretty unimpressive.  Salad tossing lefty!
 

I'm reserving judgment because admittedly I know very little about any of these players other than what someone else has written.  But I've seen comparisons to Jaime Garcia (without the arm issues) and a lot of projections that think Gonzales could pitch in the big leagues as early as 2014.  Lefties don't have to throw hard if they have good command and good secondary stuff, and it sounds like Gonzales has both.