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6/11/2013 8:20 pm  #26


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artie_fufkin wrote:

Max wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Headline in today's Toronto Sun: "Jays' rotation bolstered by Johnson, Wang"

Ah yes, we had quite a bit of fun with that a few years back.  What were they all?

"La Russa pulls Wang"

Chronologically, you're correct, but you're mixing two different anecdotes. The Yankees had Wang and (Randy) Johnson in the same rotation a few years ago, and that elicited the dick jokes. The La Russa references had to do with his comments about admiring So Taguchi in the clubhouse shower.
 

No, I'm not misremembering this time, I think.  My recollection is that there was a discussion that the team might acquire Wang a few years back, and we all had a field day with the puns.
 

 

6/11/2013 8:20 pm  #27


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Max wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Is it me, or until Craig hit that home run, did it feel like the Cardinals were trailing this game by about a half-dozen runs?

All I can see is the box score, and our scoring was ugly up to that point:

Top 4th: St. Louis
- M. Adams grounded into double play second to shortstop to first, M. Holliday scored, A. Craig out at second
Top 5th: St. Louis
- M. Wacha grounded out to shortstop, J. Jay scored, P. Kozma to third
- Y. Molina grounded out to third, P. Kozma scored, M. Carpenter to second

The Molina groundout should have ended the inning. You can't give an error on a play where the fielder gets an out, but Wright cost the Mets 4 runs and possibly the game on that play. 

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6/11/2013 8:27 pm  #28


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I only got to see bits and pieces. How did Wacha look after the first two innings?

 

6/11/2013 8:31 pm  #29


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I seem to remember a few nights ago hoping we could avoid using Rosenthal and Mujica in a 12-2 game. Maybe we can avoid using them tonight. 

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6/11/2013 8:50 pm  #30


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Had no idea the Pirates called up Gerrit Cole. 

 

6/11/2013 9:01 pm  #31


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If Shane Robinson hits a HR and no one is watching, does it count?

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6/11/2013 9:13 pm  #32


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I know Harvey is pitching on Thursday, but anything less than a sweep of this series would be disappointing.

 

6/11/2013 9:16 pm  #33


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tkihshbt wrote:

I only got to see bits and pieces. How did Wacha look after the first two innings?

Pretty good. He was able to locate his fastball better.
 

 

6/11/2013 9:19 pm  #34


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tkihshbt wrote:

Had no idea the Pirates called up Gerrit Cole. 

He was throwing between 96-99 in the first inning. He was pretty pumped up.
 

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6/11/2013 9:26 pm  #35


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artie_fufkin wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

I only got to see bits and pieces. How did Wacha look after the first two innings?

Pretty good. He was able to locate his fastball better.
 

Nothing like getting your first win less than a year after becoming a professional. 

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6/11/2013 9:29 pm  #36


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I almost witnessed history just now. Bob's team almost scored 3 runs on a ball where the batter was out on the infield fly rule. 

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6/11/2013 9:40 pm  #37


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forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

I only got to see bits and pieces. How did Wacha look after the first two innings?

Pretty good. He was able to locate his fastball better.
 

Nothing like getting your first win less than a year after becoming a professional. 

I'm just going by what I've seen without any statistical support, but it seems like getting the first pitch over for a strike is important for him. Every pitcher works better ahead in the count of course, but it seems like there's a wider discrepancy for him between 1-0 and 0-1. Of course, he's a 21-year-old kid who has made three starts in the majors, so it's probably silly to ascribe any kind of pattern to him at this point.
 

 

6/11/2013 9:42 pm  #38


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forsberg_us wrote:

I almost witnessed history just now. Bob's team almost scored 3 runs on a ball where the batter was out on the infield fly rule. 

That must have been hilarious. The closest thing to a Keystone Kops bit is the infield fly rule with the bases loaded in a youth baseball game.
 

 

6/11/2013 10:11 pm  #39


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artie_fufkin wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

I almost witnessed history just now. Bob's team almost scored 3 runs on a ball where the batter was out on the infield fly rule. 

That must have been hilarious. The closest thing to a Keystone Kops bit is the infield fly rule with the bases loaded in a youth baseball game.
 

Pop up behind first. First baseman misses it and the runner on 3rd heads home. Throw home is wild, but the backstop is close. The catcher retrieves the ball and tries to throw out the runner going to second and throws it into left center. The centerfielder gets it and throws late to third. In a unique twist, no one realized the infield fly had been called, so the batter was still running and, by this point is headed to second. The third baseman nearly overthrew second in an effort to throw out a runner who was already out. 

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6/12/2013 7:54 am  #40


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More good reporting by Derrick Goold, explaining how Wacha adjusted:

The struggles in the first inning Tuesday for rookie Michael Wacha were so uncharacteristic and the Mets’ responses to his changeup so unusual that teammates, including Adam Wainwright, left the dugout to dissect video of the inning for an explanation.
They studied to see if Wacha was tipping pitches.

They studied to see how Wacha’s delivery was disjointed.

They studied. Wacha corrected.

To begin his third major-league start, Wacha walked three batters and allowed two runs before he got a third out. But he recalibrated his fastball and fixed his hasty mechanics on the fly to complete six innings and follow the offense to a 9-2 victory at Citi Field. The win was his first in the majors – only 372 days after the Cardinals selected him 19th overall in the draft.

Again, is this as exciting as a dissection of Tony Rasmus? No, but nothing rarely is.

 

6/12/2013 8:18 am  #41


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You're right TK, Strauss never wrote anything of value during his time as beat writer. Clearly he had naked pictures of someone at the Post which is the only reason he kept his job.

Give it a rest.

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6/12/2013 8:27 am  #42


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I'm pushing back against Max's notion that we as readers were going to be doomed when someone other than Twitter Troll was giving us scoops from the clubhouse.

 

6/12/2013 8:29 am  #43


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forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Santana is making $25.5 million. Bay gets $18 million from the Mets this year, and $3 million in 2014.

Unreal. I remember when we signed Holliday a lot of people thought Bay was a better option. 

Who the fuck thought that?  I liked him when i think the red sox signed him.  I am suprised he fell off a cliff but he is no matt holliday.  On a seperate note, holliday is coming around.  If freese and holliday hit this lineup is pretty good.

 

6/12/2013 8:34 am  #44


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I think Fors is referring to Cowboy.

 

6/12/2013 8:42 am  #45


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forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

I almost witnessed history just now. Bob's team almost scored 3 runs on a ball where the batter was out on the infield fly rule. 

That must have been hilarious. The closest thing to a Keystone Kops bit is the infield fly rule with the bases loaded in a youth baseball game.
 

Pop up behind first. First baseman misses it and the runner on 3rd heads home. Throw home is wild, but the backstop is close. The catcher retrieves the ball and tries to throw out the runner going to second and throws it into left center. The centerfielder gets it and throws late to third. In a unique twist, no one realized the infield fly had been called, so the batter was still running and, by this point is headed to second. The third baseman nearly overthrew second in an effort to throw out a runner who was already out. 

That sounds about right. If they had thrown out the batter trying to advance to second, would it be classified as a double play?

 

6/12/2013 8:47 am  #46


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tkihshbt wrote:

More good reporting by Derrick Goold, explaining how Wacha adjusted:

The struggles in the first inning Tuesday for rookie Michael Wacha were so uncharacteristic and the Mets’ responses to his changeup so unusual that teammates, including Adam Wainwright, left the dugout to dissect video of the inning for an explanation.
They studied to see if Wacha was tipping pitches.

They studied to see how Wacha’s delivery was disjointed.

They studied. Wacha corrected.

To begin his third major-league start, Wacha walked three batters and allowed two runs before he got a third out. But he recalibrated his fastball and fixed his hasty mechanics on the fly to complete six innings and follow the offense to a 9-2 victory at Citi Field. The win was his first in the majors – only 372 days after the Cardinals selected him 19th overall in the draft.

Again, is this as exciting as a dissection of Tony Rasmus? No, but nothing rarely is.

Think dad can get Colby to do something about his hair? It's awful. He looks like a '70s porn actor who stuck his head in a blender.
 

 

6/12/2013 8:54 am  #47


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tkihshbt wrote:

I think Fors is referring to Cowboy.

Wonder what he's doing these days now that the Yahoo message boards are history? Last I saw, he was heaping his imperiousness upon anyone on the Miami Dolphins board who didn't think John Beck was the second coming of Dan Marino.

 

6/12/2013 9:01 am  #48


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APIAD wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Santana is making $25.5 million. Bay gets $18 million from the Mets this year, and $3 million in 2014.

Unreal. I remember when we signed Holliday a lot of people thought Bay was a better option. 

Who the fuck thought that?  I liked him when i think the red sox signed him.  I am suprised he fell off a cliff but he is no matt holliday.  On a seperate note, holliday is coming around.  If freese and holliday hit this lineup is pretty good.

I wasn't thinking so much people on the message boards, although Cowboy definitely didn't want Holliday.

Around St. Louis there was a lot of talk that off-season if the Cardinals wouldn't have been better off spending there money elsewhere.  Bay was mentioned because he wasn't seeking a contract as long as Holliday was asking for.  The belief was that Bay would provide compatable value at less total money because Bay's contract would be for fewer year.  Another name that came up quite a bit was Chone Figgins.

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6/12/2013 9:02 am  #49


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My cousin is positively obsessed with Colby. I told her I didn't see the appeal. He's goofy, can't talk right and has ridiculous hair. She even follows to see how he's doing. I told her that I, too, was enamored with his talent at one point, but it's become obvious that he's not all that good.

I believe she even has a Rasmus Blue Jays jersey.

 

6/12/2013 9:03 am  #50


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artie_fufkin wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

I think Fors is referring to Cowboy.

Wonder what he's doing these days now that the Yahoo message boards are history? Last I saw, he was heaping his imperiousness upon anyone on the Miami Dolphins board who didn't think John Beck was the second coming of Dan Marino.

That wasn't Cowboy, that was Rocket.

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