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7/02/2013 7:35 pm  #176


Re: As a church going Christian

APIAD wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

"Yes, your questions make interesting follow-up questions, but, no, the comments of mine that you were questioning did not require answers to your follow-up questions to be valid points."

I don't think anyone ever said that was the case, but when you pose a question and someone answers it and follows up with a next question, your refusal (at times) to answer becomes frustrating or almost insulting.  It's as if you're saying your question was the only one of the two that was valid and therefore worthy of an answer.  That may not be your intent, but it's certainly how it comes off--at least to me.

not to jump in here but that is exactly what i will do and direct this to max.  For example when i asked how we should respect the minority opinion you side stepped that question.  You went back and noted that your qoute didnt inculde the word opinion.  You claimed it ment different things somehow.  what is annoy about that is that you cant even have a discussion with you.  You act like ur trying to win an arguement on a technicality.  Or trying to advoid the question on a technicality.  In fact i asked you several questions and they only got answered because i brought it back up.  you want to act like people dont understand you but in reality you try to be misunderstood or hard to understand.  When someone ask for clarification on a topic you side step the question and try to say that isnt exactly what you stated.  then you act offended when things get testy.  Same song and dance everytime.  It has lead to you leaving the board at least once.  I just dont get it.   
 

Well AP, we have shared many good times and I don't want that you should be disappointed in me, but as you know I have other things to do than answer questions.  Sometimes when you hit me with three or four questions at a time when Fors appears to be trying to start a pissing contest I have to make some decisions about how to proceed: first, so as not to let the main argument get sidetracked, and second, once in a while I have to stop and fix my kids dinner.  The result might be that your questions go to the backburner until you come back and place "priority" stamp on their getting answered.

Now, with regard to these specific charges: "You act like ur trying to win an arguement on a technicality.  Or trying to advoid the question on a technicality."  That might have been your first impression, but after I took the time to answer each and everyone of your questions is it still your opinion, that I was trying to either win or avoid an argument based upon a technicality?

Please note, for example, #151.
 

Last edited by Max (7/02/2013 7:38 pm)

 

7/02/2013 7:54 pm  #177


Re: As a church going Christian

forsberg_us wrote:

Did I want to do what? I merely asked a question and you assumed something that wasn't there.

I knew which one you meant, 6/22 has carried back over to here.  

Did you really want to start another pissing contest?

It obviously began long before 6/22, and my mistatement "this thread" instead of "6/22" doesn't change the premise an iota.  


I assumed something that wasn't there?!?  That statement is belied by your own words, which I already posted.

forsberg_us wrote:

Whether you enjoy it or not is of little concern to me. You're looking for something to bitch about because--as you yourself admitted--the team's success under Dewitt and Mozeliak bothers you. If your concern was legitimate, you'd answer the question. . . . You refuse to answer because to do so makes it possible you could be proven wrong in the future and you can't possibly allow that to happen. 

So, you don't like the discussion, man up and answer the question.

forsberg_us wrote:

The only thing I've realized is that your unwilling to answer a simple question about a topic you first raise because to answer it leaves you subject to being proven wrong. It's your M.O., and certainly not the first time. You did the same thing when you bitched and moaned about the team not increasing payroll in 2010. You were asked on multiple occasions who/where you would have added, but just like now took the coward's way out and refused to answer.

Still waiting to hear who you're concerned about.

forsberg_us wrote:

Do I enjoy this? Damn right I do. When you try to stir up shit because of your own little dissatisfactions, I'm going to call you on it every time.

 

Last edited by Max (7/02/2013 8:01 pm)

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7/02/2013 8:09 pm  #178


Re: As a church going Christian

Max wrote:

APIAD wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

"Yes, your questions make interesting follow-up questions, but, no, the comments of mine that you were questioning did not require answers to your follow-up questions to be valid points."

I don't think anyone ever said that was the case, but when you pose a question and someone answers it and follows up with a next question, your refusal (at times) to answer becomes frustrating or almost insulting.  It's as if you're saying your question was the only one of the two that was valid and therefore worthy of an answer.  That may not be your intent, but it's certainly how it comes off--at least to me.

not to jump in here but that is exactly what i will do and direct this to max.  For example when i asked how we should respect the minority opinion you side stepped that question.  You went back and noted that your qoute didnt inculde the word opinion.  You claimed it ment different things somehow.  what is annoy about that is that you cant even have a discussion with you.  You act like ur trying to win an arguement on a technicality.  Or trying to advoid the question on a technicality.  In fact i asked you several questions and they only got answered because i brought it back up.  you want to act like people dont understand you but in reality you try to be misunderstood or hard to understand.  When someone ask for clarification on a topic you side step the question and try to say that isnt exactly what you stated.  then you act offended when things get testy.  Same song and dance everytime.  It has lead to you leaving the board at least once.  I just dont get it.   
 

Well AP, we have shared many good times and I don't want that you should be disappointed in me, but as you know I have other things to do than answer questions.  Sometimes when you hit me with three or four questions at a time when Fors appears to be trying to start a pissing contest I have to make some decisions about how to proceed: first, so as not to let the main argument get sidetracked, and second, once in a while I have to stop and fix my kids dinner.  The result might be that your questions go to the backburner until you come back and place "priority" stamp on their getting answered.

Now, with regard to these specific charges: "You act like ur trying to win an arguement on a technicality.  Or trying to advoid the question on a technicality."  That might have been your first impression, but after I took the time to answer each and everyone of your questions is it still your opinion, that I was trying to either win or avoid an argument based upon a technicality?

Please note, for example, #151.
 

my opinion isnt based on a single debate but rather an overall theme.  I understand your busy.  Everyone is.  Your the second leading poster here.  Time spent on the board doesnt seem to be the issue.  I enjoy direct debate.  My fuse gets short when words are pick apart.  I try to directly say what i mean and sort of expect that in return.  I enjoy a debate on a topic.  One stance against another.  I do not enjoy a debate that is unclear and instead of the topic being discussed the issue becomes what was or wasnt said.  What a certain statement may or may not have ment.  I wont be involved in such debate in the future.  I am glad this one came to end on relative easy going terms.  
 

 

7/02/2013 8:11 pm  #179


Re: As a church going Christian

Believe what you want Max. I'll say it again, believe or don't, if you had simply answered by saying what you said in post #168, none of this would have escalated.

As I said earlier, there are about 8 people who post on this board. 2 of them have now, in this thread expressed frustration with your manner of responding (or not responding). But I'm sure the problem is ours.

And with that I'm done in this thread.

 

7/02/2013 8:19 pm  #180


Re: As a church going Christian

forsberg_us wrote:

Do I enjoy this? Damn right I do. When you try to stir up shit because of your own little dissatisfactions, I'm going to call you on it every time.


Last edited by Max (7/02/2013 8:21 pm)

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7/03/2013 9:30 am  #181


Re: As a church going Christian

Sometimes I think it would be a great idea to get together for a Cardinal game like we did in ... 06?

Other times, I think some of us would end up in front of a judge trying to make him understand how frustrated we've gotten over an online message board. I don't think the judge will agree on the justification, but what do I know?

 

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