tkihshbt wrote:

Just like Matheny drew it up

As bad as he's looked sometimes, he's still a better manager than the dunderhead in the Brewers' dugout.
 

With 2 of those stolen base thingies, Wong is now 4 SBs away from the team lead. 

I'm not sure I understand where the "Wacha isn't ready" or "Wacha shouldn't be in the bullpen" sentiment comes from.  His last 2 outings, both out of the bullpen, were brilliant (3 IP, 7 K).  He wasn't very good last night, but with Matheny's post-game disclosure that Rosenthal wasn't available, I'm not sure who people would have rather seen in that situation.

forsberg_us wrote:

I'm not sure I understand where the "Wacha isn't ready" or "Wacha shouldn't be in the bullpen" sentiment comes from.  His last 2 outings, both out of the bullpen, were brilliant (3 IP, 7 K).  He wasn't very good last night, but with Matheny's post-game disclosure that Rosenthal wasn't available, I'm not sure who people would have rather seen in that situation.

I didn't see either of his prior two relief outings, so I was going on only what I saw last night, and I saw a guy who didn't look comfortable. When you've spent your entire life as a starter, suddenly being thrust into a short relief role can be like learning a language when you've been dropped into a foreign country. Some guys - Waino - can adapt to it. Some guys - Kelly - can't.  
I might have tried to nurse another inning out of Maness at that point, even if he has to hit in the top of the seventh. At that point, you're trying to protect a lead. Of course, I have the benefit of hindsight.
 

Also, i was listening on the radio.  Broadcast stated that mm must be convinced watcha was ready for high stress situations.  I took it to mean that the watcha hadnt been in many high leverage situations.  

"Maybe Matheny screwed up when he went to Maness in the 6th"

He had to do something. Miller was cooked. That was a real issue. Miller's pitch count continues to be enormous. He needs to come up with another pitch he can throw for strikes. They just spit at his curve, and he might as well send a telegram to the hitter the way he slows down his arm speed with that shitty changeup.

forsberg_us wrote:

APIAD wrote:

Also, i was listening on the radio.  Broadcast stated that mm must be convinced watcha was ready for high stress situations.  I took it to mean that the watcha hadnt been in many high leverage situations.  

He hasn't, but of those who were available last night, who had been.

Rosenthal wasn't available. He could have stuck with Maness another inning, but would have needed someone for the 8th. His options were the lefties (Lyons, Siegrist or Choate), Wacha, Butler or Blazek (can't remember which is still with the team), or Mujica for 2 innings.

Maybe Matheny screwed up when he went to Maness in the 6th, but once he did, Wacha was the next best option. He just didn't pitch well last night.

mm delt with it the best way he could but my point is that the pen is missing a piece.  That should have been easy to see before now tho.  You cant pull kelly out of the pen and not replace him.  what is the deal with rosenthal?  Is he just gassed?  If so then there is another reason they need bullpen help.  Really they have been needing it.  You cant have the same 3 pitchers throw 6 nights a week.  
 

" what is the deal with rosenthal?"

He had thrown 27 pitches to get 2 outs on Sunday, so he was deemed unavailable for Monday.