Ultimately you have to score to have a chance to win, but the tone of this game was set when Pete Kozma couldn't catch an underhand toss.

I fucking hate Pete Kozma.

Perfect time to pitch Mujica , and he runs Martinez out there ...

artie_fufkin wrote:

Comeback!!!

Came up just short ....
 

I still can't believe Adam Wainwright's first World Series start was so brutal. He looked every bit as terrible tonight as he did against Cincinnati. I just don't think the Red Sox are a good matchup for hi, especially when the curve is SOS.

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don.rob11 wrote:

Perfect time to pitch Mujica , and he runs Martinez out there ...

I was thinking about this.  I assume that the thinking to getting axford, maness and martinez into the game is to shake the nerves out in a game that is already over.  If mm has to use them tonight maybe they feel more comfortable having thrown already.  I think if that is the thinking it is the right call.  You dont save the bullpen innings in the word series.  Friday is a off day and everyone is able to pitch tonight. 
 

The two things that concern me the most are Beltran's availability and Siegrist giving up a home run to a left-handed batter, something he hadn't done all year. He may be gassed. I think he was topping out at 93-94 last night when he's been consistently throwing 97 all season. Then again, it may have been nerves.

artie_fufkin wrote:

The two things that concern me the most are Beltran's availability and Siegrist giving up a home run to a left-handed batter, something he hadn't done all year. He may be gassed. I think he was topping out at 93-94 last night when he's been consistently throwing 97 all season. Then again, it may have been nerves.

 
No player has looked more rattled than Siegrist. He's looked like a deer in the headlights since the NLDS. I think this is way too big for him, and the Cardinals are in trouble if he's unable to handle the pressure.

My hope is that last night will be the last straw in realizing this team has to get better defensively in 2014. I'll be forever in awe of what Freese did two years ago, but he looks like toast, and he's a traffic cone at third. I don't think there's any way they can go into 2014 with him at third base.

I saw the vaseline story.  Idk what to think of it.  Hopefully if it is true it will but pressure on red sox pitchers to stay clean the rest of the series.

"before they place kozma back at ss."

Kozma is like my mother-in-law. He has a lot of shortcomings that annoy you, but after a while you get used to it and you starting thinking you can put up with him, and then  - bang! - he fucks up big at the worst possible moment and you want to strangle him until he turns blue.

artie_fufkin wrote:

"before they place kozma back at ss."

Kozma is like my mother-in-law. He has a lot of shortcomings that annoy you, but after a while you get used to it and you starting thinking you can put up with him, and then  - bang! - he fucks up big at the worst possible moment and you want to strangle him until he turns blue.

Kozma will make many plays an average shortstop wont make.  He has above average range.  However he goes braindead and makes mistakes.  Id rather have a shortstop that doesnt go braindead and has normal range. 
 

artie_fufkin wrote:

APIAD wrote:

I saw the vaseline story. Idk what to think of it. Hopefully if it is true it will but pressure on red sox pitchers to stay clean the rest of the series.

The first place I saw it was on Barstool under a headline that read Cardinals' fans are bitching about it. I haven't heard or read any Cardinals' fans bitching. I've only heard Red Sox' fans bitching that Cardinals' fans are bitching about it.
 

It is part of baseball.  You get caught u pay the price.  Lester didnt get caught tho.  We will never know if it is true or not.  Maybe id be pissed if the cards lost by a run.  This is really a non story at this point.