APIAD wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

The Top 10 picks are protected, but if the Cubs were to sign, say, Carlos Beltran, they would forfeit their second round pick. If the Royals sign Beltran, the Cardinals wouldn't actually get their pick, but get a sandwich pick between the first and second rounds.

It's not fair, but it's not supposed to be fair. The new system was designed to strip away some of the ridiculous signing bonuses, but all it's really done is handicap teams that have small payrolls from overspending on a guy that will only leave school for a lot of money.

 

 

So the bedt thing that could happen for the cards is for beltran to sign with a team with an the 11 pick or lower?

It doesn't matter which team signs Beltran. The Cardinals get a sandwich pick no matter what. The variable is whether the team that signs him loses a first round or a second round pick. 

forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

"Yankees have reached an agreement with Ellsbury."

Red Sox fans, start your ire!!!

A very AL Eastern Division response would be for the Red Sox to overpay for Beltran.

Aye. Victorino presumably moves to center and they have an opening in RF. The problem with Beltran signing with the Red Sox is he can't be the DH on days he doesn't feel like playing. I'm not sure Ortiz even brings a glove to the ballpark anymore.
 

APIAD wrote:

They over paid for peralta but they kind of had to. 

 
I don't think they did when you look at what Ellsbury just got. If Ellsbury is worth 7/153, Peralta at 4/52 is a steal...

Mujica to Boston:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/red-sox-agree-to-terms-with-reliever-edward-mujica-164826949.html;_ylt=A2KJ3Ce_r6BSi0AAjirQtDMD

Furcal signs a 1 year deal with Florida.

Pretty sure the Cardinals don't get compensation for that signing. 

Granderson signs with the Mets. 4/$60M. He's expected to play LF, though I'm not sure if that's because Granderson can no longer play CF or whether it's because the Mets just have a better CF option.

If I understand the system correctly, the last few signings haven't much helped the Cardinals. The Mets and Seattle had protected picks. And the Yankees are now basically giving away picks that are meaningless. If I'm correct, the current order is now.

1. Astros
2. Marlins
3. White Sox
4. Cubs
5. Twins
6. Mariners
7. Phillies
8. Rockies
9. Blue Jays
10. Mets
11. Blue Jays (for failing to sign 2013 No. 10 pick Phil Bickford)
12. Brewers
13. Padres
14. Giants
15. Angels
16. Diamondbacks
17. Orioles
[Yankees forfeit the 18th pick]
18. Royals
19. Nationals
20. Reds
21. Rangers
22. Rays
23. Indians
24. Dodgers
25. Tigers
26. Pirates
27. Athletics
28. Braves
29. Red Sox
30. Cardinals

31. Braves (McCann)
32. Boston (Ellsbury)
33 Yankees (Cano)
34 Yankees (Granderson)
35. Cardinals (Beltran)

The remaining free agents with compensation attached are:

Kendrys Morales
Ervin Santana
Shin Soo Choo
Nelson Cruz
Ubaldo Jiminez
Stephen Drew


So the Cardinals' compensatory pick could drop 6 more spots.

Last edited by forsberg_us (12/07/2013 11:16 am)

tkihshbt wrote:

APIAD wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Cano to Seattle.  10 years, $240M

You just can't feel sorry for owners who do these stupid things to themselves.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/10089241/robinson-cano-agrees-deal-seattle-mariners

Yikes.  Not suprised of the deal.  I figured he would be overpaid.  I am suprised the mariners did this.  I wonder how they think his is going to solve there situation?
 

 
He's one of the 10 best players in baseball, and he makes them much more relevant. They still have the ability to add more payroll, which should close the gap between them and Oakland/Texas.

Cano's deal is much better than Pujols's, IMO. He's showing no decline and he's a very durable player. Good for them for spending the money they have. MLB owners are flush with cash right now and it makes no sense to sit on the sidelines.

They still have a third or fourth place team.  Thankfully for them, the astros provide security not to be the worst team in the division.  And it doesnt take much to make a contract better then pujols.  They could have paid me 100million and been better off.
 

Roy Halladay announces his retirement.  I wonder if that puts a crimp in Max's 5-year dynasty prediction?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10108609/roy-halladay-retiring-monday-toronto-blue-jay

forsberg_us wrote:

Roy Halladay announces his retirement.  I wonder if that puts a crimp in Max's 5-year dynasty prediction?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10108609/roy-halladay-retiring-monday-toronto-blue-jay

Pretty classy to not milk every dollar he had left. 
 

APIAD wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Roy Halladay announces his retirement.  I wonder if that puts a crimp in Max's 5-year dynasty prediction?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10108609/roy-halladay-retiring-monday-toronto-blue-jay

Pretty classy to not milk every dollar he had left. 
 

 
His contract was up. I don't think he could have passed a physical.

I was hoping this was a zambrano sighting.

forsberg_us wrote:

Axford is headed to Cleveland.

At least he had the courtesy to go to the other league after the Cardinals revived his career.