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12/09/2010 12:47 am  #1


Pony Excess

Last film in the "30 for 30" series is on Saturday night after the Heisman presentation. I think this will easily be the best one. It wasn't until a few years ago that I even knew SMU used to be good at football, a part of a major conference and received the death penalty.

 

12/09/2010 9:05 am  #2


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tkihshbt wrote:

Last film in the "30 for 30" series is on Saturday night after the Heisman presentation. I think this will easily be the best one. It wasn't until a few years ago that I even knew SMU used to be good at football, a part of a major conference and received the death penalty.

Already got the DVR set up for that one. Eric Dickerson and Craig James in the same freakin' backfield, TK. And if the series is true to form (and it has been for the most part thus far), your generation will find out what my generation already knows - Ron Meyer might be the biggest horse's arse to ever coach college football. And that's quite a distinction.

 

12/10/2010 12:13 am  #3


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artie_fufkin wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

Last film in the "30 for 30" series is on Saturday night after the Heisman presentation. I think this will easily be the best one. It wasn't until a few years ago that I even knew SMU used to be good at football, a part of a major conference and received the death penalty.

Already got the DVR set up for that one. Eric Dickerson and Craig James in the same freakin' backfield, TK. And if the series is true to form (and it has been for the most part thus far), your generation will find out what my generation already knows - Ron Meyer might be the biggest horse's arse to ever coach college football. And that's quite a distinction.

He also qualifies as a pro coach.  Or doesn't it snow in New England?

 

12/10/2010 9:28 am  #4


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Mags wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

Last film in the "30 for 30" series is on Saturday night after the Heisman presentation. I think this will easily be the best one. It wasn't until a few years ago that I even knew SMU used to be good at football, a part of a major conference and received the death penalty.

Already got the DVR set up for that one. Eric Dickerson and Craig James in the same freakin' backfield, TK. And if the series is true to form (and it has been for the most part thus far), your generation will find out what my generation already knows - Ron Meyer might be the biggest horse's arse to ever coach college football. And that's quite a distinction.

He also qualifies as a pro coach.  Or doesn't it snow in New England?

The best thing about that episode is Shula is still pissed about it.

 

12/10/2010 11:27 am  #5


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tkihshbt wrote:

Last film in the "30 for 30" series is on Saturday night after the Heisman presentation. I think this will easily be the best one. It wasn't until a few years ago that I even knew SMU used to be good at football, a part of a major conference and received the death penalty.

I'm learning slowly, but at least I'm learning.  At first I was dumbstruck to think that you hadn't ever heard of Doak Walker and Kyle Rote.  After some reflection, it occurred to me that your exposure to these guys would be approximately the equivalent to my exposure to folks who played in around the 1920's and I can't name a single player from that era unless some of the greats like Red Grange and Bronco Nagurski played earlier that I think they did.  And if that is the case, then I don't know that much about them.

Come to think of it, they must have played college ball before 1930, I think.

Actually, I just researched it on the web and found that those two names did play college in the 1920's.

Also, TK you might be surprised to know that TCU and Rice also had some outstanding football teams in the 1950's.  And Hayden Fry coached some pretty good teams at SMU in the 60's.

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12/10/2010 1:14 pm  #6


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When SMU got nuked, I was barely out diapers. By the time I started following college football around '98, the SWC was long gone and SMU was a team I only saw play on Tuesday nights against Louisiana Tech.

I am vaguely aware of TCU's success, but not Rice's. I've always thought of it as a baseball school.

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12/10/2010 2:20 pm  #7


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Maybe you aren't aware of this play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSteCSinjTs

Rice actually had two players who made most 11 man All-American teams (At that time, players had to play both ways.)  The ball carrier and narrator is Dicky Maegle (whose name you'll also see spelled as Moegle & Magle various places).  The big lineman running with him step for step was my first favorite player, 6'6", 225 lb tackle named Dick Chapman, who was an outstanding student and majoring in nuclear physics.  In those days, he was one of the biggest men in college football.

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12/10/2010 10:57 pm  #8


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Mags wrote:

Maybe you aren't aware of this play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSteCSinjTs

Rice actually had two players who made most 11 man All-American teams (At that time, players had to play both ways.)  The ball carrier and narrator is Dicky Maegle (whose name you'll also see spelled as Moegle & Magle various places).  The big lineman running with him step for step was my first favorite player, 6'6", 225 lb tackle named Dick Chapman, who was an outstanding student and majoring in nuclear physics.  In those days, he was one of the biggest men in college football.

The thing that always cracks me up about that clip is the way Lewis immediately retreats to the bench, like "Sorry. My bad."

 

12/13/2010 11:10 pm  #9


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For those of you who don't recall or weren't around, here's a little refresher on the last days of Woody Hayes:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/12/13/dont-let-jets-coach-field/?test=faces

After Hayes had been fired, Ron Meyer was speaking to a football audience, in Texas I believe, and offered his views on the incident.

Artie, do  you by any chance recall what he had to say?

 

12/13/2010 11:34 pm  #10


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Mags wrote:

For those of you who don't recall or weren't around, here's a little refresher on the last days of Woody Hayes:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/12/13/dont-let-jets-coach-field/?test=faces

After Hayes had been fired, Ron Meyer was speaking to a football audience, in Texas I believe, and offered his views on the incident.

Artie, do  you by any chance recall what he had to say?

I remember Hayes punching the kid from Clemson because I watched it live on TV. Charlie Baumann was his name, right?
But I didn't find out what an arrogant dick Meyer was until he coached the Patriots.

 

12/14/2010 8:35 am  #11


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Meyers comment was that Hayes shouldn't have been criticized, much less fired, because the guy who intercepted the pass and he tried to punch deserved it.

On the ESPN program, I was fascinated by how freely he bragged about the lies he told players to get them to come to SMU.

 

12/14/2010 9:37 am  #12


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Mags wrote:

Meyers comment was that Hayes shouldn't have been criticized, much less fired, because the guy who intercepted the pass and he tried to punch deserved it.

On the ESPN program, I was fascinated by how freely he bragged about the lies he told players to get them to come to SMU.

I think I've done what you did. I watched the last half-hour as it was broadcast, and then went back watched the first hour. I paused the DVR when Meyer leaves for New England. So I have about a half-hour left to watch that I'll probably get to on a night I don't have a conflict with my kids' basketball team, which right now is looking like around mid-March.
There's a story I'll post later when I have a little bit more time about one of the guys I work with who was so devoted to Ron Meyer he hasn't watched an NFL game since the Patriots canned him.

 

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