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7/16/2014 1:42 pm  #1


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Now that Bud Selig is done having anything to do with the All-Star Game, can the next commissioner go back and undo the worst of what Selig has brought to the game? I'll start:

-Astros go back to the National League
-Interleague play ceases immediately
-The All-Star Game stops counting
-Managers must manage the ASG like a real game, except for the pitchers. If that means Miguel Cabrera and Mike Trout play nine innings, so be it
-No more second Wild Card
 

 

7/16/2014 2:43 pm  #2


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I would simply just say the All-Star Game needs to stop counting. And add more skills events to the All-Star break, because that's really the only thing worth watching (Fielding, long throws from the outfield, HR derby, etc).

Interleague play either needs to cease, or the combined record between the two leagues needs to dictate the home field advantage of the world series. 

The American league can keep Houston, and the Managers can do whatever they want in the ASG if it doesn't count.

Second Wild Card doesn't really annoy me that much. I'm okay with that.

 

7/16/2014 3:15 pm  #3


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Can someone explain to me why home field for the World Series can't simply be decided by the participant's won-loss record?  I've heard people try to argue that it's unfair due to differing levels of competition, schedules, etc..., but that argument carries little weight.  Within a league, one of the divisions can be particularly weak or strong.  Since a team's schedule is heavily weighted with division games, this is either an advantage or disadvantage depending on what division the team is in.  Despite these disparities, the LCS is decided by win-loss record.

Two teams make the World Series.  Team with the better win-loss record gets home field.  It's not that complicated.  

 

7/16/2014 3:18 pm  #4


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forsberg_us wrote:

Can someone explain to me why home field for the World Series can't simply be decided by the participant's won-loss record?

Because of the tie 12 years ago. 

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7/16/2014 7:20 pm  #5


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tkihshbt wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Can someone explain to me why home field for the World Series can't simply be decided by the participant's won-loss record?

Because of the tie 12 years ago. 

Nothing prevents another tie. Even with the "it counts" bullshit, a team can still run out of players. Then what?

 

7/16/2014 8:55 pm  #6


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Heck, I'm not against going back to alternating leagues every year. This way the National league gets it half the time . They've been taking it on the chin the last 15 or so years .......

 

7/17/2014 1:53 am  #7


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tkihshbt wrote:

Now that Bud Selig is done having anything to do with the All-Star Game, can the next commissioner go back and undo the worst of what Selig has brought to the game? I'll start:

-Astros go back to the National League
-Interleague play ceases immediately
-The All-Star Game stops counting
-Managers must manage the ASG like a real game, except for the pitchers. If that means Miguel Cabrera and Mike Trout play nine innings, so be it
-No more second Wild Card
 

I was just thinking about the next commissioner fixing this retarded all stargame counts thing.  I am very in favor of that and like fors said just let the team with the best record get hf advantage.  Id rather the regular season games count then a game purely for show.

The astros going back to the nl and abolishing inter league play have to go together.  Im fine with both. 

I do understand that the next commish would want to respect seligs decisons.  I see the all star game being changed back to not counting as an exception.  I supose i can live with interleague play.  I hate the astros carvinal field ballpark anyway.  I would like to see the new commish speed the game up.  That should be priority number 1
 

 

7/17/2014 7:54 am  #8


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tkihshbt wrote:

Now that Bud Selig is done having anything to do with the All-Star Game, can the next commissioner go back and undo the worst of what Selig has brought to the game? I'll start:

-Astros go back to the National League
-Interleague play ceases immediately
-The All-Star Game stops counting
-Managers must manage the ASG like a real game, except for the pitchers. If that means Miguel Cabrera and Mike Trout play nine innings, so be it
-No more second Wild Card
 

The Red Sox are put up for sale and are sold to the highest bidder, keeping with the tenets of Jean Yawkey's will.
Jeffrey Loria and David Samson are arrested and charged with fraud against the people of Dade County, convicted and sentenced to lengthy prison terrms. The Marlins are moved to Montreal, where they are re-christened as the Expos and sold to local ownership that will build a new ballpark. 

 

7/17/2014 9:38 am  #9


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The only issue with higher record gets home field is that you cannot start selling tickets until the participants are announced. 

 

7/17/2014 10:02 am  #10


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APIAD wrote:

I would like to see the new commish speed the game up. That should be priority number 1

I agree. Torre said a few years ago that the problem wasn't so much the length of the game, but the pace. I would go 12 seconds between pitches, no catcher or batter timeouts and one mound visit for the catcher and pitching coach per game. I've seen some people suggest limiting bullpen moves, but that's going too far. 

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7/17/2014 10:07 am  #11


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The Marlins are moved to Montreal, where they are re-christened as the Expos and sold to local ownership that will build a new ballpark. 

I would take them in Montreal or anywhere else that's Not Florida. At some point, pro sports leagues are going to realize nobody in Florida is interested in anything other than college football. 
 

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7/17/2014 11:38 am  #12


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tkihshbt wrote:

APIAD wrote:

I would like to see the new commish speed the game up. That should be priority number 1

I agree. Torre said a few years ago that the problem wasn't so much the length of the game, but the pace. I would go 12 seconds between pitches, no catcher or batter timeouts and one mound visit for the catcher and pitching coach per game. I've seen some people suggest limiting bullpen moves, but that's going too far. 

I agree that it isnt the length but the pace.  I can watch a 3hr game fine but it better be 3.5hrs for a reason.  Idk how u put a time limit on time between pitches.  How do the umps encorce that?  With a stop watch?  Then you are going to start seeing umps let longer and longer times go.  Imo, i like the idea that the batter stays in the box and the pitcher stays on the mound.  There is zero reason for the batter to take his gloves off between every pitch and no reason the pitcher needs to walk halfway to second base rubbing up the ball.  If someone is hurt and needs a minute the ump can grant it.  Other then that get in the box and on the mound and do what the fans came to watch you do.  If they are in their respected spots then the game will speed up on its own.  Plus it is a horrible practice to show kids.  Im not opposed to the pitcher pacing the mound or the batter putting one foot out and getting signs from the 3rd base coach.  I think those things are fine but i still believe the game would speed up by limiting walk around time. 

One visit seem pretty strick to but i like the idea of a limit of some kind.  And ur spot on with the timeout thing.  Honestly now the ump just shouldnt grant it.  Let the pitcher have a free throw and there wouldnt be request.  You dont get to start over just cause you dont feel right.

 

7/17/2014 11:59 am  #13


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alz wrote:

The only issue with higher record gets home field is that you cannot start selling tickets until the participants are announced. 

Not true. Teams sell 4 tickets to the playoff rounds regardless of eventual outcome. For example, the division winner with the 3rd best record isn't likely to have gone field in the LCS, but it's possible if the wild card team wins the LDS. The division winner will sell it's fans tickets to 4 home games. If one of the other division winners wins it's series, then it refunds the unused games.

The NHL (and probably the NBA) do the same.

 

7/17/2014 12:48 pm  #14


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Plus playoff games are going to be sold out no matter how much of a pain in the ass it is to schedule your vacation day off ffom wofk.  From a mlb money standpoint, who cares. 

There has been more bitching about the all star game since the change then there was before.  It is simply a bad idea.  The great thing about being the boss is you neved have to admit your mistakes.  Also an advantage of being a women but that is a different topic.

Idk if it was said on here or elsehwere but the idea that over all interleague record decide HFA makes more sense then the all start game.  The point was to make the all star game mean something.  It is still meaningless.  The best 9 players are not playing the whole game, nor pitchers...ect.   wainwright is groving fastballs..blah blah blah....nobody cares!

 

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