That 3-1 pitch to Wong hasn't been called a strike all night.

That's one way to win.

Bourjos made that happen.....

He was in reach of the base/plate I think is the rule .

don.rob11 wrote:

He was in reach of the base/plate I think is the rule .

I know, but it seems like the rule on breaking up a double play at second base ought to be a little different than it is for breaking up a home-to-first double play. The catcher really is defenseless in that situation.
 

artie_fufkin wrote:

don.rob11 wrote:

He was in reach of the base/plate I think is the rule .

I know, but it seems like the rule on breaking up a double play at second base ought to be a little different than it is for breaking up a home-to-first double play. The catcher really is defenseless in that situation.
 

Apparently the D-backs haven't read the Reds' manual on whining

D-backs manager Chip Hale argued that Bourjos' slide was out of line, but after the game Hale admitted it was a "legal slide." Pacheco didn't object to the slide either, telling the Arizona Republic's Nick Piecoro:
[quote888]"It was a good slide. I tried to get out of there as quick as I could. (Bourjos) is a fast guy and that's what happens when you have speed on the bases. He got me and I couldn't hold up and I was already pretty much throwing."[/quote888]

Marty Brenneman will probably complain about it during the next Reds broadcast.

"Marty Brenneman will probably complain about it during the next Reds broadcast."

Marty has other things to talk about. TTTIB lost eight in a row before beating the Rockies on Tuesday, and they have the red hot Nashnils coming to Pigsknuckle tomorrow. They're already 11.5 games out and the only reason they're not in last place is because Milwaukee's pitching staff couldn't get the Brewers into the top half of the SEC.
Cueto is about two starts away from Tommy John surgery, which means they won't get anything for him except a draft pick at the end of the season. Mesoraco might be done for the year with a left hip impingement (there's that word again), Billy Hamilton's OPS is last among all qualifying NL centerfielders, Votto has four extra base hits and four RBI this month, and they're still rolling out Jason Marquis and his 6.46 ERA every fifth day.

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The Blue Jays aren't going anywhere, so I wonder if Edwin Encarnacion would be in play.

From Buster Olney's Insider piece on options to replace Adams.

Ryan Howard, 1B, Philadelphia Phillies: He has had a resurgence this season and certainly would augment the Cardinals' power, especially against right-handed pitchers (he has an .868 OPS against them in 2015). Howard is from the St. Louis area, and given that the Phillies have indicated to the baseball world that they would be willing to eat a ton of money to move him, there could be a deal to be made here -- if the Cardinals are interested, that is. Howard is making $25 million this year, will make $25 million next year and has a $10 million buyout on a 2017 option. It's hard to imagine St. Louis or any other team trading for Howard unless the Phillies assumed something in the range of 70-90 percent of that money owed to him.

Ben Zobrist, 2B/SS/OF, Oakland Athletics: The perception of other teams is that the A's want to take a shot and see if they can climb back to relevance with Zobrist back in action, but as of this morning, the A's are 17-32 and 13 1/2 games out of first place. It might be fish-or-cut-bait time soon for Oakland.Zobrist isn't a big power hitter, and that would make him an imperfect fit for the Cardinals, but his versatility would give Cardinals manager Mike Matheny and Mozeliak a lot of flexibility and lineup protection to react to a changing context (e.g. if Adams comes back sooner than expected or there's an injury at another infield position). Zobrist, a free agent in the fall, has played just 17 games at first base in his career, but given his acumen, he'd be a good bet to figure out the details of playing the position.

Aramis Ramirez, 3B, Milwaukee Brewers: Ramirez is nearing his 37th birthday and the end of his career, and assuming Milwaukee would eat almost all of his remaining salary, the Cardinals could think about dealing for him and either play him at third and shift Matt Carpenter to first, or perhaps just play Ramirez at first. Ramirez is a right-handed hitter, like Reynolds, so he wouldn't really provide a different look, and maybe his production this year -- he has a .290 on-base percentage -- would scare the Cardinals away.

Adam Lind, 1B, Brewers: If the Cardinals believe Adams' injury will keep him out through September, maybe they'd be more apt to explore this possibility. Lind, who turns 32 in July, is really good against right-handed pitching and could platoon with Reynolds, and he has an $8 million option for next season.

Daniel Nava, OF/1B, Boston Red Sox: He has really struggled this season in sporadic opportunities, batting just .159 in 27 games. It may be that Boston would want to keep him and hope for a bounce-back, given its own lack of left-handed hitting. But the Red Sox just acquired the left-handed-hitting Carlos Peguero, they have a surplus of outfielders, and Nava really isn't part of the long-term plan anyway. Nava could play first base and the outfield for the Cardinals.

Ike Davis, 1B, A's: If Oakland sells, Davis might be another candidate; he has a .775 OPS, and could be a complement to Reynolds.

Garrett Jones, 1B/OF, New York Yankees: The surprising re-emergence ofAlex Rodriguez this season has limited Jones' opportunities -- he has one homer and a .235 average in 53 at-bats -- and when Jacoby Ellsbury returns from the disabled list, Slade Heathcott might be a better fit for the Yankees' roster than Jones.

Daniel Murphy, 2B/3B, New York Mets: He's a solid, professional hitter, and while he plays both second and third, his best spot might be at first base, for now anyway. The reality that he's headed for free agency in the fall might nudge the Mets toward a move, though the uncertainty of not knowing when David Wright will return might make them more conservative.

Travis Ishikawa, 1B/OF, Giants: The veteran Ishikawa, who has not played in the big leagues this season, was just taken off the Giants' 40-man roster. The Cardinals are familiar with his work.

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Zobrist can probably be had, but I don't think he's the first baseman so much that he gives the team more depth off the bench.

My personal preference is for Adrian Beltre and Carpenter to first base.

"My personal preference is for Adrian Beltre"

He's 36 (Celsius?), his OPS is off .140 from the last two seasons, and he's owed $18 million next year. He's still the best defensive third baseman I've seen not named Scott Rolen, but it doesn't seem like a move Moz would make. 

artie_fufkin wrote:

Ok, now there are two big pickups parked out in front. It's a big 2-family (the only one on the street) with high hedges to the front and left side, and a 6-foot fence to the right and along the back. The shades are always drawn.
I'm not sure how many people live there. There's a grandmother, two women who appear to be 40-45, a couple of women in their late teens, a couple of pre-teen girls and a boy who is maybe 8-9. All the kids of school age are home-schooled, or at least I've never seen any of them walking to and from school. There was a boy who is probably 25 now. When we moved in, he was about 13 and went to the public school, but according to Cub Fan's wife next door, the kid got picked on a lot, started wearing Goth attire and grew his hair long, dropped out of high school and ended up moving to Florida.
There goes one of the pickups ... let's see what happens next.

 

Pretend like ur selling something for ur kids and knock on the door 10 minutes after someone enters.

forsberg_us wrote:

Give Bourjos credit for causing that throw.

You think.  I thought the slight contact was made after or toward the very end of the throw.  It was just contact with the heel.  I didnt think it shoukd have caused air mail.  Maybe bourjos coming down the shoot may have unnerved him.