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8/14/2015 5:56 pm  #1


8/14 GC

Need to get a sweep because the Cubs are en fuego.

 

8/14/2015 8:43 pm  #2


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seems odd D. Reynolds got start against RH? 
now he scored a run (view game channel)

 

8/14/2015 9:20 pm  #3


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num_nut wrote:

seems odd D. Reynolds got start against RH? 
now he scored a run (view game channel)

2 for 3 with an RBI

 

8/14/2015 9:53 pm  #4


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If Garcia finishes the season healthy, they have to pick up his option, don't they? He was almost unhittable.

 

8/15/2015 2:15 am  #5


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forsberg_us wrote:

If Garcia finishes the season healthy, they have to pick up his option, don't they? He was almost unhittable.

No question about it.  He has been near unhittable all season.  If i had to pick a game one playoff starter it would be him.  Then Martinez and wacha...not sure about game 4.  Leaning toward lackey because he is so steady.

 

8/15/2015 10:15 am  #6


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APIAD wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

If Garcia finishes the season healthy, they have to pick up his option, don't they? He was almost unhittable.

No question about it.  He has been near unhittable all season.  If i had to pick a game one playoff starter it would be him.  Then Martinez and wacha...not sure about game 4.  Leaning toward lackey because he is so steady.

Exactly. Imagine next season. If Wainwright comes back healthy, you have him and Garcia as a 1-2 RHP-LHP combo. Wacha and Martinez as 3-4 and Lance Lynn is the #5. That's a dominant rotation. Gonzales and Cooney are the depth.

 

8/15/2015 10:48 am  #7


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Depending on how heyward resigning goes I wouldn't mind seeing lynn traded.  Id think he would have pretty good value.   The possiblity of resigning lackey exist.  I also think maro and cooney do offer protection.  Im not dead set on the idea but it is nice to have options.

 

8/15/2015 10:58 am  #8


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I didnt think id say this but I hope matt adams makes it back this season.

 

8/15/2015 11:36 am  #9


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VEB has an article on Martinez workload.  Author Nick Lampe had this to say ". Barring an injury, though, I think there is a very real chance that the Cardinals put Martinez in the bullpen if they make the playoffs."

I dont see how that is possible.  I see lqckey and lynn as the bottom 2 starters as far as putting out a dominant playoff preformance.  My thoughts on starters and my playoff order based off of how pitchers are throwing now.

Garcia- pure shut down stuff.  It seems when healthy he is a lock.

Martinez- his stuff is dominate.  When he is on he is like garcia in that he matches up with any ace in the league.

Wacha- im less impressed with his shut down ability then the first two.  Doesnt seem to be quite as dominant quite as often.  Not knocking him, just saying I think he comes in third.

Lackey/lynn-  idk which one to pick.  Both are similar.   Im leaning towars lackey because he seems to always do the same thing.  6 innings 3 runs.  He can throw to a shitty team and preform that way.  I think if he faced the 98 yankees and have the same results.  With the cardinals bullpen 6 innings is good enough to stay in any game.  Having said that lynn isnt much different.

 

8/15/2015 11:50 am  #10


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In past years I'd take Lackey's consistency over Lynn's potential, but this year Lynn has had very few crappy starts, so it's a tougher call. Still, it's hard to keep Lackey out of a playoff rotation with what he's done this year despite a little less success in his last two starts - both on the road. And if they're really that concerned about Martinez' and Wacha's innings, maybe Lackey for at least one home start per series with one of those two skipping a start makes sense.

 

8/15/2015 11:58 am  #11


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JV wrote:

In past years I'd take Lackey's consistency over Lynn's potential, but this year Lynn has had very few crappy starts, so it's a tougher call. Still, it's hard to keep Lackey out of a playoff rotation with what he's done this year despite a little less success in his last two starts - both on the road. And if they're really that concerned about Martinez' and Wacha's innings, maybe Lackey for at least one home start per series with one of those two skipping a start makes sense.

I agree.  They need to give lyons and cooney some starts.  In September when the roster expands it will be easier to carry an extra starter on the roster.  It wouldnt hurt to skip them now tho.  One thing u dont want to do is going into the playoffs with a lack of hunger.  Ao if they give them extra time it needs to be ao they can still get a couple starts before the playoffs.

 

8/15/2015 1:59 pm  #12


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Matheny is big on guys with a track record. As much trouble as we and Cardinals fans gave Larussa for not trusting rookies, Matheny is as bad or worse.

Lackey has a long post-season record. Wacha was 2013 NLCS MVP. Lynn has been a starter for several years and Garcia is the best of the bunch.

Martinez has bullpen experience (Lynn does too, but it's less recent).

I suspect Matheny would go with Lynn, Lackey, Garcia and Wacha.

 

8/15/2015 2:03 pm  #13


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One other thing about Martinez, I think his youth and enthusiasm is infectious and really good for the team. He's always among the most excited when something goes well. Even something as silly as his stacking the cups and the rest of the dugout trying to knock them down keeps things light. I bet his teammates really like him.

 

8/15/2015 8:04 pm  #14


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well well,  Lookey here!

 

8/16/2015 1:30 pm  #15


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forsberg_us wrote:

I suspect Matheny would go with Lynn, Lackey, Garcia and Wacha.

 

That would be a horrible missed opportunit to not start martinez.

 

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