Hard to believe the Nashnils fired their manager just as they're about the enter the post-season as the team to beat in the National League.

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There seems to be a preponderance of closet sausage jockeys out there who have a weird man-crush on Harper, the way the fan boys around here want Tom Brady's cock in their mouth. 
Must be the eye black or something. I don't get it. He's a good player an' all, but the Nashnils probably could have still missed the playoffs without him.
 

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Babe Ruth's 1921 season will never be surpassed, approached or equalled again. Ever. There are good slow-pitch softball players who don't put up those kinds of numbers.

tkihshbt wrote:

alz wrote:

Before his career is over, he will be arrested, and the words, "Do you know who I am?" will come out of his mouth. Just wait for it.

Harper is a mild-mannered Mormon. If he was going to go off the rails like a Matt Bush I think it would've happened already. 

Perhaps in real life he is, all I know of him is his antics on a baseball field. A lot of good solid play, mixed with even more "Hey you scrub, did you see my play? I'm so much better than you are. You are lucky to be on this field with me" type attitude.

TK,
I don't want to make too big a deal out of this because my respect for Harper has grown as his career has progressed, but there is a Hey Look At Me quality to his personality that can be annoying.
And let's not forget that reputations are sometimes based on legitimate character traits. Edmonds, and you know how much I liked him, did have some showboat in him - his nickname is Hollywood and he's on a TV show about housewives my wife watches - and Rolen in fact didn't get along with at least two of his managers.

artie_fufkin wrote:

TK,
I don't want to make too big a deal out of this because my respect for Harper has grown as his career has progressed, but there is a Hey Look At Me quality to his personality that can be annoying.
And let's not forget that reputations are sometimes based on legitimate character traits. Edmonds, and you know how much I liked him, did have some showboat in him - his nickname is Hollywood and he's on a TV show about housewives my wife watches - and Rolen in fact didn't get along with at least two of his managers.

In defense of Rolen, La Russa was a hard guy to mesh with. And Bowa, well, the less said the better. There was a 2006 Cardinals roundtable that aired on FSMW and Edmonds flat-out said that La Russa was a pain in the ass. He said it would be 10 minutes until he was scheduled to stretch and La Russa would come by and ask him why he wasn't out there already. Obviously we don't know everything that went down between TLR and Rolen, but given that the players had to tell La Russa to get off their asses a bit after 2003, I'm not surprised Rolen was aching to get out.

Point taken on Edmonds, though. I guess I'm annoyed that Edmonds was remembered more for his theatrics than the fact that he was a really, really great baseball player for a seven-year period. 

And as for Harper, I won't belabor it too much more, but I guess I just don't see the same thing you guys are seeing. I know he carries himself with a lot of swagger, but I'm entertained by players like that. Except when they play for the Red Sox or Cubs.

One last thing about Edmonds: he said last week that he'll be on "Real Housewives" for at least one more season, maybe two, depending on how his wife feels. Apparently she's trying to launch her second career and he's going along with it. 

Yep, three times in fact. I believe his first wife recently passed away from cancer.

Well before he hit the bigs, there was this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApkT5TZd9gA

There was something else about him hitting a home run and absolutely jawing the pitcher the entire time around the bases.

There was the Papelbon fight (which started when Harper called him out earlier after he plunked Machado for staring at a home run.

Bryce Harper: "Manny freakin hit a homer, walked it off and somebody drilled him. It’s pretty tired...I’ll probably get drilled tomorrow"

So Papelbon waited until he didn't leg out a fly ball and went after him (both are hotheads).

=12pxThere just seem to be a lot of cases where Harper ends up looking like a first rate asshole. And as you noted, he hasn't been here long.



 

artie_fufkin wrote:

There seems to be a preponderance of closet sausage jockeys out there who have a weird man-crush on Harper, the way the fan boys around here want Tom Brady's cock in their mouth. 
Must be the eye black or something. I don't get it. He's a good player an' all, but the Nashnils probably could have still missed the playoffs without him.
 

He had a great year.  The number themself are not earth scattering.  They are typical mvp type numbers.  Him doing it as 22 is the story.  Idk of anyone who has had the kind of start to their career that harper has.  He is 22 and has just under 100hr and 250rbi.  Thats amazing regardless of what kind of person he is.   
 

Harper was proclaimed baseball's best prospect by Sports Illustrated when he was 15 or 16 years old.  Unlike most occasions when someone insanely young is proclaimed the "next, great thing," Harper has actually lived up to the billing.  Most of the things that cause people to dislike him were things Harper did when he was a teenager.  It's hard to hate a kid for acting like a kid.  If he's still acting this way when he's 25, I'll have more of an issue with his behavior.

At age 22, Harper just posted an OPS higher than every season of Albert Pujols' career in St. Louis, except for 2008.  It's just one season, but he had an insanely good season.