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9/14/2010 6:31 pm  #1


9/14 Game crap: shutting out the lights.

Pujols won't play tonight.  Lopez starts at 1B

Garcia did well enough on his own for another QS, 6 IP 2 ER, but it's questionable if wasted performances on an underachieving team will get anybody recognition for a major award this season.  I am repeatedly disappointed with this team's ability to do anything right, and now I am beginning to be skeptical that a depressing story like the 2010 Cardinals will warrant anything at all.

Cardinals
Schumaker 2b
Lopez 1b
Rasmus cf
Holliday lf
Jay rf
Molina c
Feliz 3b
Wainwright p
Ryan ss


Chicago
Fukudome rf
DeWitt 2b
Byrd cf
Ramirez 3b
Nady 1b
Soto c
Colvin lf
Barney ss
Wells p

 

9/14/2010 7:12 pm  #2


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"Pujols won't play tonight.  Lopez starts at 1B"


"Cardinals
Schumaker 2b
Lopez 1b
Rasmus cf
Holliday lf
Jay rf
Molina c
Feliz 3b
Wainwright p
Ryan ss"

On about the sixth inning or so, while the Cardinals are being shut out on three hits by Randy Wells, Pujols ought to place a call from the dugout phone to DeWitt's box ... "Sooooo, Bill. When do you want to talk about my contract extension?"

 

9/14/2010 8:34 pm  #3


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"Sooooo, Bill. When do you want to talk about my contract extension?"


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I had fun imagining this meeting last offseason, and it will be even better now.

A) Pujols says nothing, does nothing but go home and relax in the DR and wait for Moz to call.  "What's on your mind, Jim, . . . or is it John?  Contract?  Sure I'd love to chat about that.  Just have Bill swing on by my place anytime he has free.  I'll be here on the beach.  My people will know where to find me.  Yeah, lookin forward to it Jim, er, John."

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9/14/2010 8:36 pm  #4


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5-1, Wainwright is exploding before our eyes.  I reckon he must be injured.

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9/14/2010 8:53 pm  #5


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Thru 6 innings Wainwright :        Thru 8 :

9  H                                                 12               
5  R                                                  5
5  ER                                                5
1  BB                                                1
7  K                                                  8
2.52                                                2.50

Last edited by don.rob11 (9/14/2010 10:43 pm)

 

9/14/2010 11:03 pm  #6


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The Cardinals magic number for being eliminated from the National League Central Division race fell to 12 with the loss. The defeat was their sixth in the last eight games.
--R. Hummel St. Louis Today

 

9/14/2010 11:10 pm  #7


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There's no question we should be comparing the 2010 Cardinals with the '69 Cubs.  True, we weren't up by 11 games, or whatever, but if you look at our won-loss record after we swept the Reds in August to take the lead, I'll bet it compares favorably with the Wrigleyian collapse that allowed the Mets to get back in it in '69.  it wasn't just Seaver, Ryan, Koosman, McGraw, etc.  The Cubs had to lose a WHOLE PILE of games to even give the Mets a chance.

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9/14/2010 11:13 pm  #8


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81-81 is starting to look good  .

 

9/15/2010 9:26 am  #9


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9/15/2010 10:11 am  #10


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Not without a significant increase in payroll.

If you assume Pujols signs for "only" $25M/year, the Cardinals will have $81M tied up in 6 players (Pujols- $25M, Holliday- $17M, Molina- $5.5M, Carpenter- $15M, Wainwright- $6.5M, Lohse- $12M.  If you include the $6M combined they owe to Franklin ($3.5M) and Schumaker ($2.5M), it's up to $87M for 8 players. 

This year's payroll was $94M.  If they try to keep payroll flat, that means the other 17 players earn only $7M combined or less than $500K each.  That's not happening if they intend to be competitive.

There are a number of pieces they can bring back at or near league minimum who can help this team (Rasmus, Jay, Craig, T. Greene, Garcia, Motte, Boggs, Hawksworth).  Even Ryan and McClellan are due raises since they are arbitration eligible for the first time.

The only chance this team has is to increase payroll to somewhere in the range of $110M.  If they don't, 2011 will just be more of the same.

 

9/15/2010 10:15 am  #11


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BTW, I should have included Freese in that last post as a cheap piece, but if they go into 2011 relying on Freese to play the entire season at 3rd, they're kidding themselves.

 

9/15/2010 10:16 am  #12


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don.rob11 wrote:

Any money left after Albert , and can we use it wisely ?

It depends on who you believe, DeWitt, or most everyone else.  I fall in with the latter and think the real question is, "how to shake more money out of DeWitt in order to pay for the things we need besides Pujols"

Let's face it, Jocketty and LaRussa were a clever pair who skillfully got DeWitt to agree to large increases in payroll up to our high water mark, around 2007.  Since then, DeWitt has used Mozeliak's newbie status, and erroneous projections about how the economic downturn would hurt the team's bottom line, to strong arm him into accepting the downsizing of our payroll.  How has it worked out in the period 2008-2010???

We needed to be back at our highwater mark, about $103M, this past season, and we need an increase on top of that for next season, maybe another $5M or so, to get us within spitting distance of $110, with the plan to leapfrog that for 2012.  The only thing out there saying the money isn't there is DeWitt, himself, but the books are private, so there's no way for him to verify his claim.

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9/15/2010 11:19 am  #13


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"If you assume Pujols signs for "only" $25M/year, the Cardinals will have $81M tied up in 6 players (Pujols- $25M, Holliday- $17M, Molina- $5.5M, Carpenter- $15M, Wainwright- $6.5M, Lohse- $12M."

One of the better ways to have a shitty team is tie up a lot of money in a handful of players.
I'm just sayin' ...

 

9/15/2010 11:20 am  #14


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Max wrote:

5-1, Wainwright is exploding before our eyes.  I reckon he must be injured.

That was like watching zombies try to play baseball last night.

 

9/15/2010 12:04 pm  #15


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Not sure if I even want to see the Cards play on ESPN again this week 

 

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