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I've been eyeballing the career stats for some big names, Ruth, Aaron, etc., wondering two things:
1. How do Pujols lifetime stats project?
Surely there is a program that does this, and I suspect someone has tried it. Does anybody know the answer?
2. What's the chance the Berkman's career is over?
My quick and dirty eyeball method is too look at the career trajectories for some other great hitters, starting with Ruth and Aaron. The Babe played for about 16 seasons as a full-time position player, Aaron for 22 1/2. Ruth would have been up around 20 if he hadn't started his career as a pitcher.
Ruth's last season as a fulltime player he batted .288 with a .448 OBP and 22 HR. The next season he had 28 games for a different team and he batted .188 and was all done. Prior to the .288 season, he had been .310 with 31 bombs and the year before that it was .341 with 41 bombs. Ruth dropped like a rock.
Aaron's last season and a half he batted down around .230 and hit a total of 22 HRs. The season before that he batted .268 with 20 HR, and the one before that it was .301 with 40 HRs. Aaron, too, dropped like a rock.
In this analysis, what scientists would call 'heuristic', the pattern seems to be:
normal susperstar-type season
steep decline to an average player
steep decline to below average
done
If Berkman fits that trajectory:
2008: normal susperstar-type season
2009: steep decline to an average player
2010: steep decline to below average
2011: he is done.
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In 2011 Berkman would be done at 35 years old . Aaron was done at 42 .
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And Ruth at 40. Yeah, I hear that. And there is also the possibility that his problem was a fixable knee injury.
But another fact is that people age differently. And Berkman has been a bit pudgier than the kind of athlete that has extraordinary durability.
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Strauss just came back from Houston where he interviewed Berkman for a story to run in Friday's Post. Apparently Berkman has lost a lot of weight and looks to be in great shape.
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forsberg_us wrote:
Strauss just came back from Houston where he interviewed Berkman for a story to run in Friday's Post. Apparently Berkman has lost a lot of weight and looks to be in great shape.
Crash fitness programs are great ways to aggravate delicate knees and ankles.
Seriously, it would be great if Berkman could come back and make a legitimate impact for us.
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From Strauss' chat:
"Berkman's acquisition for $8 million offers three significant questions: Can he play outfield on a regular basis after not doing so for seven years? Was last season's .248 average a mirage or an indication of a player in decline? Are his surgically repaired knees sound? A story in Friday's P-D will touch on all three but I can say Berkman appears in impressive shape. He has not spent the winter lounging on his couch downing Twinkies. Promise. From what I saw, he's much more Big Puma than Fat Elvis. I'll leave the details for Friday."
Stay tuned
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This is the best story to come out of the Post Dispatch in some time.
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Yeah, it is a good one. Now I'm expecting him to have a great spring training and something crazy like needing Tommy John happening.
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Rah-rah-sis-boom-bah. I am 100% on board. I want the Cardinals to win, and I Lance Berkman to have the kind of feel good come back they make movies about. The attitude he displays is much, much better than most any other I could imagine.
That said, this only eases my concerns a bit. TK is probably joking, in part, but it's very common among 35 year old guys who go on a crash fitness program to aggravate something weird here or there. And on top of that, although 2 months into his program he's dropped 20 pounds, but 6-1 210 with 12% body fat doesn't exactly qualify him for iron man status.
Last edited by Max (1/14/2011 10:44 am)