forsberg_us wrote:

Artie already knows this story, but it's Christmas, so why not share.

A couple of weeks ago, Chad, another friend and I were out having a few drinks and I was talking about Encarnacion. Chad mentioned that he liked Bautista. He thought he would take a shorter contract and because he had come up as a 3rd baseman could easily transition to 1st base. The more we talked about it, the more excited he got until he finally said, "fuck it, why not, let's see if we can make this happen."

Next thing I know he's texting Molina to see if he knows Bautista. Yadi says they're good friends. Chad asks Yadi if he thinks Bautista would be interested in St. Louis and Yadi responds "I'll find out."

About an hour later, Chad gets another text from Yadi, who had been texting Bautista. Bautista told Yadi he'd love a chance to play in St. Louis and another shot at postseason, but St. Louis hadn't shown any interest. After a couple of texts back and forth with Chad, Yadi says, "we need to make this happen, I'm texting Mo."

About 2 hours later (yeah, we were drinking a while), Chad gets a couple of texts from Yadi. They were screen grabs of the texts with Moz. It went something like.

Yadi- Hey Mo, just wanted to let you know I was talking to Jose Bautista and he says he'd love to come to St. Louis. Just thought I'd pass it along.

Moz- Yadi.  Thanks for the information. At this time I don't think it works into our plans, but we'll talk about it internally and keep it in mind should something change.

Long story short, Moz knows Bautista is willing to come to St. Louis, he doesn't care. I suspect you're looking at the 2017 Cardinals.

What a cunt

APIAD wrote:

So the cards are allegedly in on brian dozier.

Twins wanted too much in return ... not cost-effective for us ... dry powder ... we weren't willing to trade our prospects ... we think Kolten Wong will have a breakout year for us ... lower-hanging fruit ... dry powder ... [fill in name of team to which Dozier is traded] offered more than we were willing to offer ... dry powder ... We like our team ... dry powder ... we're waiting to see what happens at the trade deadline ... dry powder ... dry powder ...

First, it's really scary to hear stories like the one Fors posted.... I'm used to spitballing about what I'd love to see my team do, but with this Chad character.... BAM let's talk to the Hall of Fame catcher who will immediately ask the GM? And during the same evening, you get an answer from Mozeilak? That's just super weird to me being a "fan" lol. I'll need time to process that. I am not ready for anything I discuss as an armchair quarterback who thinks he knows everything, but really doesn't to actually land in the radar of the GM. If he made the move, I'd want the credit.

Second. Thinking of Bautista in a Cardinals uniform is pretty alien to me, but so was Beltran and Berkman. Bautista is a little bit classless at times, bat flipping, stare downs, and that's always bugged me, course I forgave it for a decade when Pujols did it, so maybe that's something I could be fine with.

Third, he's even open to taking a 1 year contract, so I'm not positive how Bautista doesn't fit with your plans, unless those plans are to not spend any money getting better, and just take it all as profit......

forsberg_us wrote:

I don't believe for a minute the Cardinals are interested in trading for Dozier, and honestly, I don't know that I'd want to.  Dozier really isn't a middle of the order bat--he's spent most of his career hitting lead off.  The Twins are trying to sell high after what is likely a career year.

I have a feeling this is nothing more that Moz having someone float a rumor so they can say they kicked the tires, but when Dozier ends up elsewhere they can say they tried but the price was too expensive.

I think joey bats fits in every way better then dozier.

tkihshbt wrote:

That's funny about Oquendo's side piece. I bet it was Front Row Amy. 

How many communicable diseases are in play in that scenario?

http://m.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article/212937042/carpenter-reyes-will-play-in-baseball-classic/

So glad a guy who's never pitched more than 110 innings in any season as a professional is going to add to his workload before opening day.
Ordinarily, I would have lesser concerns about Carpenter, but then I remember a couple of years ago the Cardinals sent him home for a week to decompress because he's wrapped too tight.
 

Mags wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

http://m.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article/212937042/carpenter-reyes-will-play-in-baseball-classic/

So glad a guy who's never pitched more than 110 innings in any season as a professional is going to add to his workload before opening day.
Ordinarily, I would have lesser concerns about Carpenter, but then I remember a couple of years ago the Cardinals sent him home for a week to decompress because he's wrapped too tight.
 

I had very much the same reaction but thought I'd be underscoring my crotchiness if I commented.  But I long ago arrived at the opinion that Carpenter needs to place less rather than more.

This underscores how the players and management are much more interested in hauling more money, no matter what the diminution of the product they provide to ticket holders.
 

My new year's resolution was to become crotchitier. Or more crotchity. Not sure which. Either way, I no longer have interest in seeing players who are under contract to the Cardinals playing for other teams. I was thrilled when Yadi didn't make the All-Star team last year because he's better off resting for those four days.

Last edited by artie_fufkin (1/08/2017 9:32 am)

"My new year's resolution was to become crotchitier. Or more crotchity. Not sure which. Either way, I no longer have interest in seeing players who are under contract to the Cardinals playing for other teams. I was thrilled when Yadi didn't make the All-Star team last year because he's better off resting for those four days."


Crotchity gives me a lot of trouble too.  I finally decided to ignore the spell check and go with the most convenient.
 

JV wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

My new year's resolution was to become crotchitier. Or more crotchity. Not sure which.

I met a crocheter and got my crotch itchy.

Try listening to someone with a Boston accent say "crotcheter." They sprain their tongue.
 

forsberg_us wrote:

Bautista back to Toronto.  1 year, $18M

I saw that.  Second year option with a 500 000 buy out.  No brainer imo.

Someone want to tell me how Casey Blake got on the Hall of Fame ballot?

I thought that writers ballots were being mandated that they be public now?

don.rob11 wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Someone want to tell me how Casey Blake got on the Hall of Fame ballot?

 
Blake claims to be embarrassed that his name was put on the ballot .
Don't know if it was this Lutz guy . He wrote the article on Blake .

http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/bob-lutz/article127221634.html

Don't get me wrong. Blake seems like a good guy and he had a decent career, but why go through the charade?