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"Don Zimmer"
It's funny how perception varies. In Chicago, Zimmer is the hero who led the Cubs to the division title in 1989. In New York, he was Joe Torre's sage and invaluable bench coach. In Boston, he's the guy who drove away a beloved group of players, and couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
"Or did they come out with a run?"
They did, but not in the way Matheny envisioned it. You're giving up an out with a right-handed fastball hitter facing a lefty who throws fastballs to move the slowest runner in the league to third with one out so a player with 27 strikeouts in 80 career major league at bats can drive him in.
Gyorko took Matheny off the hook when he doubled in Molina, but to me that move falls under the "even a broken clock is right twice a day" realm.
That's right. But I defy you or anyone else to consistently read what Matheny envisions. I grant the situation yesterday was about as obvious as it ever gets.
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"Don Zimmer"
It's funny how perception varies. In Chicago, Zimmer is the hero who led the Cubs to the division title in 1989. In New York, he was Joe Torre's sage and invaluable bench coach. In Boston, he's the guy who drove away a beloved group of players, and couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag.
I actually thought about that, although not in the depth of your musings, when I came up with Zimmer. All through the Yankee's run under Torre, I would sit there and ask myself if he could really be the same guy who botched up so many moves when he was managing the Cards. Eventually, I came to realize (or intuit) that Zimmer was the guy behind the team play and personnel moves that made things happen the way they did. At the same time I found myself thinking (lo those many years ago), "I don't ever remember being that impressed with this guy before."
My first image of Don Zimmer was as a 19 year old bonus baby for the Dodgers who was on more of my baseball cards than just about anybody except a couple other bonus babies who didn't contribute anything -- Sandy Koufax and Harmon Killebrew. Then there was Al Kaline, Joey Amalfattano, Dick Schofield, and a few others I can't recall at the moment.
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"I defy you or anyone else to consistently read what Matheny envisions"
I confess I have no idea what goes through that man's mind. Or if anything at all ever does.
May I revise my statement to "They did, but not in the way I believe Matheny envisioned it?"
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"My first image of Don Zimmer was as a 19 year old bonus baby for the Dodgers who was on more of my baseball cards than just about anybody"
I remember there was one year when I seemed to get a John Boccabella card in every pack I bought. Sometimes more than one. Those when right onto the bicycle spokes.
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Here is my last image of Don Zimmer .
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... Those when right onto the bicycle spokes.
Same thing I did with Harmon Killebrew and Sandy Koufax.
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Here is my last image of Don Zimmer .
With the admission I've always liked Pedro a lot more than I liked Zimmer, I thought Pedro took too much heat for that incident. Zimmer tried to be a bully, and forgot he was about elevendy hundred years old.
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... Those when right onto the bicycle spokes.
Same thing I did with Harmon Killebrew and Sandy Koufax.
Never heard of either one of them.
The only two baseball players my mother-in-law has ever heard of are Koufax and Jonathan Papelbon, whose name she thought was (and may still think is) "Papelbaum." She also insists Bruce Springsteen is Jewish, and wishes Bernie Sanders wasn't.
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... Those when right onto the bicycle spokes.
Same thing I did with Harmon Killebrew and Sandy Koufax.
Never heard of either one of them.
The only two baseball players my mother-in-law has ever heard of are Koufax and Jonathan Papelbon, whose name she thought was (and may still think is) "Papelbaum." She also insists Bruce Springsteen is Jewish, and wishes Bernie Sanders wasn't.
Did you ever see the SNL skit with the segment on people with Jewish names who aren't? The "guests" were Casper Weinberg and Julius Irving.
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Same thing I did with Harmon Killebrew and Sandy Koufax.
Never heard of either one of them.
The only two baseball players my mother-in-law has ever heard of are Koufax and Jonathan Papelbon, whose name she thought was (and may still think is) "Papelbaum." She also insists Bruce Springsteen is Jewish, and wishes Bernie Sanders wasn't.
Did you ever see the SNL skit with the segment on people with Jewish names who aren't? The "guests" were Casper Weinberg and Julius Irving.
There's a scene in Spinal Tap where one of the characters claims he listens to audio books read by famous people, and one of the examples he cites is "Washington Irving, and someone named Dr. J."