Hope oneill forces their hand.  He is going to have to force them to stay on the big club.  Shouldnt, but will.  He hit that hr off the end of the bat.  Looks like he got about 1/3 full contact.  Exciting player

He's made fewer mistakes than McCarver, who has called him "Ryan" at least twice so far.

In a world where there is justice, O'Neill would be back in the leftfield tomorrow night.  I guess.  I've never lived in such a world.

I did not like the decision to let Flaherty go back out for the 8th.

APIAD wrote:

 He doesnt leave the lineup till he has an 0-fer if i was manager.

But that would make management look bad for the Ozuna acquisition.  Win or lose, yoiu must not show up management.

"inquisition" may bave been more appropriate.

BTW, I think I just discoved that spell check doesn't work when you are "edit" mode.
 

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APIAD wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

He's made fewer mistakes than McCarver, who has called him "Ryan" at least twice so far.

I believe it was derek fowler today.

Heard that one, too.
 

Mags wrote:

APIAD wrote:

 He doesnt leave the lineup till he has an 0-fer if i was manager.

But that would make management look bad for the Ozuna inquisition.  Win or lose, yoiu must not show up management.. 
 

O'Neill doesn't have to play in LF.  Ozuna is hitting over 70 points more than the guy who started in RF on Sunday.

Just imagine how it would have come off yesterday if it had been Bob Gibson with Hicks's velocity and Herra had pulled that crap.  Warms my heart.

Incidentally, I thought the home plate umpiring on both Saturday and Sunday was some of the very worst I've seen in a long time, both in calling balls and strikes and controlling the game.  My blood pressure was really boiling on Saturday even before Tim and Whiskey Dan started talking about Herra's antics.  And I didn't see any of the bad pitch calls benefiting Flaherty.

I decided long ago that Hunter Wendelstadt was not in his dad's class.  Yesterday surely did not change my mind.

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Mags wrote:

Just imagine how it would have come off yesterday if it had been Bob Gibson with Hicks's velocity and Herra had pulled that crap.  Warms my heart.

Incidentally, I thought the home plate umpiring on both Saturday and Sunday was some of the very worst I've seen in a long time, both in calling balls and strikes and controlling the game.  My blood pressure was really boiling on Saturday even before Tim and Whiskey Dan started talking about Herra's antics.  And I didn't see any of the bad pitch calls benefiting Flaherty.

I decided long ago that Hunter Wendelstadt was not in his dad's class.  Yesterday surely did not change my mind.

Until the announcers started grousing about it, I assumed I was the only one who thought Herrera was channeling his inner Mike Hargrove.
I've never cared much for the Phillies, their fans, Philadelphia teams (especially the Flyers) or the city itself. It's a shithole filled with obnoxious, rude people. You could say the same thing about Boston, but at least we've got more historical sights here, and a great science museum. All there is to see in Philadelphia is Independence Hall. 
One of the things Dan and Tim did get right this weekend was the notion the plate umpire ought to start calling strikes when the batter starts excessively dawdling like Herrera. Same with the pitcher. I think there's even a rule on the books that the pitcher has to start his windup within either 20 or 25 seconds after he receives the ball back from the catcher, or he gets call for a balk. Maybe they ought to call it the "Erik Bedard Rule." 

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forsberg_us wrote:

I didn't watch any of the games this weekend.  From what I can gather Herrera dawdled during his at-bats, but was there any more to it?

According to Dan, Hernandez, Hoskins, Altherr and Florimon are all among the league leaders in pitches per plate appearance. You can't really complain about guys having long plate appearances because they're being selective, but you can grouse about the guy hitting third after Hernandez and Hoskins who is posing for baseball card photos in between pitches of his at bat.
And, yes, I realize Altherr and Florimon didn't play every inning of every game in this series, but Tim and Dan were on a roll about pace of play all weekend.
And I thought I saw Tim drinking wine in the booth on Thursday or Friday, whichever night they were interviewing Steve Carlton. At the very least, he was consuming grape-colored liquid out of a wine glass. Whether it was Chateau Margaux, Mogen-David or Welch's Grape Juice, I can't say.
 

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forsberg_us wrote:

I didn't watch any of the games this weekend.  From what I can gather Herrera dawdled during his at-bats, but was there any more to it?

Yes, and there was a little skirmish in the Ardennes around Dec. 1944.

For me, it began it the start of Saturday's game when I noticed at his AB he had almost his entire left foot behind the back line.  He was barely touching it if at all.   Then he began taking longer and longer between AB's and stepping out quickly once seemed to be coming set.  Eventually he began stepping out of the box just at the pitcher was starting his delivery.  It was obviously throwing Gant off of his timing.  Early on, he cut loose with a pitch that was about 10 feet over Pena and should have been recognized as a complaint, but it apparently wasn't.  It only continued to get worse, especially during his last AB on Saturday.  The home plate ump made no attempt to control his stepping out of the box at the last second.  Or if he did, it was very subtle and Herrera egregiously ignored him. 

I thought it was a disgraceful spectacle of a player completely flouting the rules.
 

forsberg_us wrote:

Was this limited to this weekend, or does Herrera do this all the time? If the latter, then that’s on MLB and the umps for allowing it.

My brain continues to fail me but I have some vague sense that WD and Tim indicated it was something he's known for.