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2/22/2011 6:03 pm  #1


First Injury of the Year

Punto out 8-12 weeks

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_7a2f6676-3ecc-11e0-ac83-0017a4a78c22.html

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2/22/2011 11:44 pm  #2


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So there goes plan B at third and SS.  I bet they pick Miles up in a month when he is DFA.  For a million dollars they could have had Orlando Cabrera.  If he were the plan B the plan B would be better then plan A.  That wouldnt have help out with third base depth but still.

 

2/23/2011 10:20 am  #3


 

2/23/2011 10:22 am  #4


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Well fuck.  There goes 2011.

 

2/23/2011 10:24 am  #5


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Yep.

 

2/23/2011 10:35 am  #6


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Strauss is already hinting at TJ surgery on his Twitter feed.  Welcome to the rotation Miguel Batista. 

Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck

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2/23/2011 10:41 am  #7


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I thought I read that they were going to inquire about Milwood.

 

2/23/2011 10:44 am  #8


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Pissa. Just friggin' pissa.

 

2/23/2011 10:49 am  #9


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tkihshbt wrote:

I thought I read that they were going to inquire about Milwood.

That's the speculation on Rotoworld and Twitter

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2/23/2011 10:52 am  #10


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This injury to Wainwright harkens back to September when Strauss was reporting that a member of the rotation was going to have surgery, leading everyone (especially me) to think it was Wainwright.

 

2/23/2011 10:55 am  #11


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forsberg_us wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

I thought I read that they were going to inquire about Milwood.

That's the speculation on Rotoworld and Twitter

Great. I ordered filet mignon, and I ended up with a bowl of puppy chow.

 

2/23/2011 11:02 am  #12


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tkihshbt wrote:

I thought I read that they were going to inquire about Milwood.

Really??  When I saw this info I looked up Milwood's status.  I thought he went unsigned.  2010 was a bad bad year for him but he might be woth a shot.  If they could Loshe him without resigning him to a backbreaking contract that might save 2011.  Also I guess I dint relize how young Snell was.  He is only 29.  I always thought he was a breakout waiting to happen.  Bottomline is if Wainwright isnt around then alot more ifs have to break the Cardinals way to even have a chance. 

I was reading the Wainwright story and say that he only has 2 option years left.  They vested if he was top 10 in CY award in 2011.  The 2012 option is for 9 million.  If he is out for all of 2011 do they rework the option years or does the club just pick it up.

 

2/23/2011 11:05 am  #13


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tkihshbt wrote:

This injury to Wainwright harkens back to September when Strauss was reporting that a member of the rotation was going to have surgery, leading everyone (especially me) to think it was Wainwright.

Wainwright sat on it hoping things went his way.  Clearly something was majorly wrong.  He didnt even make a spring start.  It will be interesting if he has to have TJ.  Could be another injury that the Cardinals staff could have lessened the impact on the team if they acted right the first time.

 

2/23/2011 11:14 am  #14


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APRTW wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

I thought I read that they were going to inquire about Milwood.

Really??  When I saw this info I looked up Milwood's status.  I thought he went unsigned.  2010 was a bad bad year for him but he might be woth a shot.  If they could Loshe him without resigning him to a backbreaking contract that might save 2011.  Also I guess I dint relize how young Snell was.  He is only 29.  I always thought he was a breakout waiting to happen.  Bottomline is if Wainwright isnt around then alot more ifs have to break the Cardinals way to even have a chance. 

I was reading the Wainwright story and say that he only has 2 option years left.  They vested if he was top 10 in CY award in 2011.  The 2012 option is for 9 million.  If he is out for all of 2011 do they rework the option years or does the club just pick it up.

We've gone to a solid to a bunch of if and buts. Is it me, or has nothing gone right for the Cardinals ever since Holliday got blasted in the package with that line drive at Dodger Stadium?

 

2/23/2011 11:18 am  #15


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2/23/2011 11:24 am  #16


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artie_fufkin wrote:

[We've gone to a solid to a bunch of if and buts. Is it me, or has nothing gone right for the Cardinals ever since Holliday got blasted in the package with that line drive at Dodger Stadium?

I would date it back to november 2006.  It is like they used up their allotted luck for 10 years in a couple months.

 

2/23/2011 11:25 am  #17


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I would like for them to give him a real try just to stop this year back and forth deal.

 

2/23/2011 11:34 am  #18


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If Wainwright has TJ sugary is he out for the whole year or could he come back and pitch out of the pen in the fall.

 

2/23/2011 11:43 am  #19


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The curse of AP is beginning, and he hasn't even left yet... THIS GUY IS AMAZING!

 

2/23/2011 11:50 am  #20


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windwalker wrote:

It's been a pretty good February so far for the Redbirds, cant wait to see what the rest of the year brings.

I hope Albertson's is stocked up.

Make that: Windy gets the first shot ...

 

2/23/2011 12:43 pm  #21


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Which is too bad, because the earlier story was that this was the year that McClellan could be comfortable in knowing his role going in to ST.

 

2/23/2011 12:47 pm  #22


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If true, this is seriously horrible news.  If this is to be Pujols last season with the Cards, and if the plan had been to go all in and win one for the Gipper, then maybe God laughed, and it is time for a new approach:

Ask Pujols to waive his no trade rights and deal him to the team he wants to go to for the world's collection of prospects.

Trade a recuperating Wainwright and Carpenter for the world's remaining prospects. 

Look forward to 2013 under a new franchise name:  The St. Louis New Devil Rays!

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2/23/2011 1:36 pm  #23


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Max wrote:

Ask Pujols to waive his no trade rights and deal him to the team he wants to go to for the world's collection of prospects.

Sadly, this would be the best business decision for the organization as a club. Pujols has already made the statement that he's not allowing any trade (some can say this is for loyalty to a team, he doesn't want to play for different clubs in the same season, or you can say he's so pissed off that he has no intention of cutting the Cardinals bumbling front office a break at this point, or a mix of both).

So now, without Wainright then you have a good chance of outpitching an opponent maybe 2 times every 5 games. Pujols numbers will increase without Wainright in the rotation however. Pitching to Albert with 2 runners on while up 6-1 because you rocked McClellan isn't so bad as trying to pitch to him with a 2-1 lead because Wain-o is on the mound.

 

2/23/2011 2:26 pm  #24


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If Pujols refuses to remove his no trade clause even when the Cardinals tailspin isnt that a sign.  He claims all that matters is winning.  So a trade off a failing team to a playoff team makes since in a walk year.  Unless of course his plans are to resign with the Cardinals.  We will have to wait and see how it plays out but if he refuse to be traded while playing for a non-playoff team I take that to mean he wants to give the Cardinals every chance he can to make a deal with him.

 

2/23/2011 2:48 pm  #25


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APRTW wrote:

If Pujols refuses to remove his no trade clause even when the Cardinals tailspin isnt that a sign.  He claims all that matters is winning.  So a trade off a failing team to a playoff team makes since in a walk year.  Unless of course his plans are to resign with the Cardinals.  We will have to wait and see how it plays out but if he refuse to be traded while playing for a non-playoff team I take that to mean he wants to give the Cardinals every chance he can to make a deal with him.

I hope you're right. I tend to think it means "You had your chance, you're not getting a massive trade package for me when you wouldn't pay me."

 

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