artie_fufkin wrote:

Reds 11, Cardinals 2: Poncedeleon allows two runs over five innings but leaves due to a high pitch count and the Reds obliterate the Cardinals' bullpen. Carpenter hits a pair of solo homers to account for the Cardinals' scoring. 

Reds 7, Cardinals 0. Poncedeleon pitches a 7 inning no-hitter, but leaves due to a high pitch count. Luke Gregerson, Brett Cecil and Greg Holland combine to allow 7 runs on 3 hits, 6 walks and a hit batsman in the 8th inning.

Way off, Fors. 7 -3 maybe.

Anyone else think Poncedeleon has earned another start?

Promising

I hate this bullpen more every day.

It's hard to put into words how much I loathe watching the brand of baseball the Cardinals are playing right now. And it's not just the bullpen. A player who has been in the league for 15 years fails to properly read a fly ball to the warning track in centerfield and doesn't advance to third with one out. A player who tells anyone who will listen he's the second coming of Willie Mays makes the first out at third because he doesn't know how to slide. The defense, while relatively decent last night, especially in the outfield, is routinely awful, far, far away the worst I've ever seen since I've been following the franchise on a daily basis . 
Whom to blame? The players themselves for being substandard? Past field management for implementing strategy that never seemed to work? The front office for composing such a flawed team? Ownership for not giving the front office and management the resources to compose a better team? A combination of all of the above? Likely, but I'll posit this: Brett Cecil had three straight years in Toronto when his ERA was under 3.00. He was death on lefthanded hitters. He was the pitcher the Blue Jays brought into the game when they had to get David Ortiz out. Have his skills eroded that much? Maybe. His numbers started to trend downward the year before the Cardinals acquired him. Was it a poor decision to sign him, or is he doing something different the coaching staff here hasn't picked up on?
 

I don’ see the games anymore unless they are on National tv . Even then it’s sad to see what has happened to this once great franchise.

forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Anyone else think Poncedeleon has earned another start?

Apparently Moz disagrees.

It is hard to tell (me especially) if minor league pitching is for real.  Id like to see it make major league pitching expendable.

APIAD wrote:

Bernie kind of over did his point but i get it.  Ozuna has been horrible.  I wonder what kind of difference stanton would of made in the lineup.

I keep expecting (hoping) tohear thay Ozuna’s shoulder has bothered him all year.